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SPECIAL PROBLEMS IN INTERVIEWING
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CROSS-CULTURAL INTERVIEWING
WHILE CULTURAL COMPETENCE has many definitions, in this chapter we use the definition that has been
most widely accepted in social work and other counseling professions (Sue and Sue 2008). According to this
definition, cultural competence is comprised of three components:
1. Culturally competent self-awareness/attitudes: awareness of biases, assumptions, and personal values that may
negatively influence interactions with, and perceptions of, diverse clients.
2. Culturally competent knowledge: an understanding of the worldview and the social and political context in which
the culturally diverse client lives.
3. Culturally competent skills: culturally informed skill in the use of interview responses and treatment modalities.
In the remainder of this chapter, these three elements will be discussed as they apply to the social
work interview with racial/ethnic, sexual minority, and elderly clients (Sue and Sue 2008). The topic of
religion and spirituality is discussed as it applies to the older adult. For an extended discussion of this
topic, Edward Canda and Leola Dryud Furman’s book Spiritual Diversity in Social Work Practice: The
Heart of Helping is highly recommended.
RACIAL/ETHNIC MINORITY DIFFERENCES
Population projections for the United States indicate a decline in the proportion of non-Hispanic
Whites and an increase in Asian Americans, Hispanic/Latino Americans, and African Americans in the
next forty years. Immigration and fertility trends (decreasing births among non-Hispanic Whites and
increases among other groups) are the forces expected to lead to greater diversity in the U.S. population
by 2050 (Cheeseman Day 2010). In a national survey of licensed social workers, 41 percent reported
that more than half of their caseload were ethnic minority clients (National Association of Social
Workers Center for Workforce Studies 2006). Given the growing population of African Americans,
Hispanic/Latino Americans, and Asian American groups, it is likely that the composition of
racial/ethnic minorities in worker caseloads will increase in the near future.
The social work labor force, on the other hand, is overwhelmingly White, suggesting that a
racial/ethnic minority client is likely to be seen by a White social work interviewer (National
Association of Social Workers Center for Workforce Studies 2006). Given this probability, it is
surprising how little empirical information is available about White social work attitudes or feelings
toward racial/ethnic minority groups. A single randomly selected sample of White social work
practitioners from a single state chapter of the National Association of Social Workers (NASW) found
that the majority endorsed positive attitudes toward racial/ethnic minorities (Green, Kiernan-Stern, and
Baskind 2005). While this result is reassuring, it measured only self-reported attitudes, not White
respondents’ unconscious attitudes toward people of color.
In the following section we discuss the issues that may arise when the White interviewer interacting
with an African American client holds unconscious racial biases. The focus is on the White
interviewer/African American client dyad because that is the topic of the majority of the research. The
dynamics that are identified, however, should generalize to an interview in which there is a White
practitioner and another racial/ethnic minority group member.
SELF-AWARENESS: RACIAL/ETHNIC MINORITY DIFFERENCES
Implicit attitudes are “actions or judgments that are under the control of automatically activated
evaluation, without the performer’s awareness of that causation” (Greenwald, McGhee, and Schwartz
1998, 1464). In this section, we discuss implicit attitudes toward members of racial/ethnic minority
groups that reflect stereotypes or characteristics at the individual or collective level that are related to
membership in a social category (Boysen 2010). A stereotype about African American males is that
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they are aggressive or hostile. Repeated exposure to this stereotype over time and from many sources
may result in its automatic (e.g., involuntary) retrieval in the presence of an African American male.
This is an example of implicit bias (Wilson, Lindsey, and Schooler 2000).
Explicit and implicit attitudes coexist in memory and may not be consistent. An individual may form
an explicit evaluation of an individual that is independent of, or does not agree with, his implicit
evaluation. These different levels of attitude (Dovidio et al. 2002) may influence different types of
responses. Explicit attitudes affect deliberate responses for which the individual has the motivation and
opportunity to weigh the costs of one response over another. Implicit attitudes influence automatic
responses that are more difficult to control or for which motivation to control is absent because these
responses are judged to be irrelevant to the task (Wilson et al. 2000). The label “dual attitudes”
represents the simultaneous existence of explicit and implicit attitudes in memory.
The concept of implicit bias is reflected in research on “aversive racism.” Because of the significant
influence of race relations between Whites and African Americans on American society, the majority
of the research on this concept is focused on White attitudes toward African Americans, though it can
be generalized to attitudes between Whites and other groups. Changing social norms in the United
States, influenced by the Civil Rights Act and other legislation that made discrimination illegal,
contributed to a decline in blatant racial prejudice. Instead, many Whites are aversive racists: their
explicit attitudes reflect support for equal rights, while their implicit attitudes reflect racial bias
(Dovidio et al. 2002).
In several studies that examined interracial interactions, White participants’ explicit attitudes toward
African Americans were expressed in verbal behavior, while their implicit attitudes were reflected in
nonverbal behaviors such as visual contact (eye contact indicates attraction, liking) and blinking
(blinking rates are responses to tension). Whites who held less biased explicit attitudes but biased
implicit attitudes displayed friendly verbal behavior while simultaneously displaying negativity in their
nonverbal behavior. The White participants with these dual attitudes evaluated the interaction favorably
because they were aware only of their verbal behaviors. However, from the perspective of the African
American participant, the nonverbal behavior was weighed more heavily than the verbal behavior,
resulting in feelings of uneasiness. To the extent that African American individuals are sensitive to
rejection or dislike in interacting with Whites, they may conclude that these conflicting messages are
indicative of deceitfulness and manipulation (Dovidio et al. 2002).
Implicit racial bias can also influence the interview in the form of micro-aggressions. The term
micro-aggression as used here refers to subtle, unintentional behaviors or verbal comments that convey
rudeness or insensitivity or demean a person because of his or her membership in a racial/ethnic
minority or sexual minority group (Sue and Sue 2008). Stereotyping the client (“I know that African
American people are very religious”) and minimizing the influence of racial/cultural issues (“I am not
sure we need to talk about race to understand your depression”) are two examples of racial
micro-aggressions. African American clients’ perceptions of racial micro-aggressions by White
counselors have been negatively related to the quality of the therapeutic relationship and to avoidance
of future contact (Constantine 2007). It may be particularly difficult for the African American client to
cope with racial insults in a context such as the counseling interview that is assumed to focus on
fostering growth and development.
Implicit racial bias can also interfere with the expression of empathy. Empathy is defined as the act
of perceiving, understanding, and responding to the ideas and emotions of others (Barker 2003; Gerdes
and Segal 2011). At its most basic level, empathy is manifested as “affective sharing,” which is an
automatic and involuntary process. When we listen to another person describe feelings and observe her
facial expressions, gestures, and vocal tone, neural networks are stimulated in our brain through
“shared representations” that stimulate us to adopt their postures, facial expressions, and voice tone, as
well as experience similar emotions (Gerdes and Segal 2011; Preston and de Waal 2002).
Neuro-imaging studies have found that implicit racial prejudice decreases affective responding for the
targets of prejudice, potentially interfering with the ability of the interviewer to respond empathetically
to a client of another race (Chiao and Mathur 2010; Gutsell and Inzlicht 2010).
REDUCING IMPLICIT BIAS
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While implicit bias is automatic, that does not suggest that it is inevitable or unchangeable (Macrae and
Bodenhausen 2000; Stampley and Slaght 2004). Perspective-taking, or assuming the perspective of the
individual who is the object of prejudice, is a strategy for reducing implicit bias toward members of an
“out-group” (Galinsky and Moscowitz 2000; Todd et al. 2011). In several studies, perspective-taking
decreased implicit racial/ethnic bias as measured in attitudes and nonverbal behaviors. While the
dynamics underlying this effect are not established, one suggestion is that in taking the perspective of
the out-group member, one experiences a connection between the self and that individual. Since most
people’s evaluation of themselves is positive, this evaluation is connected in the perceiver’s mind to the
object of bias, who is then regarded more positively.
Perspective-taking can also enhance the development of affective-sharing and empathy in the
interview. Perspective-taking requires an intense concentration on the client’s use of words and
content, gestures, and facial expressions. Through focused listening and close observation, the worker
may begin to mimic the client’s facial expressions and posture. As a result of this matching of
expressions and gestures, the worker also experiences the emotions of the client and is able to share the
client’s feelings or affect, contributing to the development of empathy (Gerdes and Segal 2011).
CULTURAL COUNTER-TRANSFERENCE
Cultural counter-transference refers to culturally based and conditioned stereotypes, values, and
attitudes that distort the interviewer’s perceptions of the client who is a member of another group. For
example, an interviewer whose family endorsed the work ethic may assume that “anyone can pull
themselves up by their bootstraps,” leading to a distorted view of an African American client whose
skills do not match the available jobs in an area. The following questions can be helpful in revealing
the influence of one’s own cultural assumptions on the interview:
1. Are you using yourself or your family as the standard to view the client or the client situation?
2. What self-reflection process do you use to recognize your emotional reactions (thoughts and feelings) to clients?
3. Are you identifying your needs rather than the client’s needs and priorities?
4. Are your unresolved personal issues or conflicts interfering with your understanding or perception of the clients’
situations? (Stampley and Slaght 2004, 345)
KNOWLEDGE: RACIAL/ETHNIC MINORITY DIFFERENCES
The culturally competent interviewer is aware of the complex issues in developing knowledge that can
be applied to the racial/ethnic minority client in the interview. On one level, knowledge of what the
majority of members of a racial/ethnic group believe may offer some general information, but it cannot
be assumed that all individuals in the group reflect these beliefs. There are generally more differences
within a racial/ethnic group than between racial/ethnic groups. For example, while many Asian
Americans may be characterized as displaying filial piety, strong identification with the family, and
emotional restraint, an individual Asian American client may diverge from the group in being
expressive and more interested in job mobility than parental caregiving (Kim, Atkinson, and Umemoto
2001).
Further, enculturation and acculturation may influence core cultural beliefs. Acculturation refers to
the process of learning about and adopting the values, beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors or “worldview”
of the White majority culture (Hwang 2006). Enculturation refers to the degree to which the individual
maintains the beliefs of his or her own indigenous heritage (Kohatsu, Concepcion, and Perez 2010).
Each individual processes acculturation and enculturation differently (Kohatsu et al. 2010). Thus an
adolescent Asian American female may reject the emphasis that her family places on harmonious
relationships by disobeying her mother (acculturation) but maintaining the Asian belief in the value of
education by studying hard in school (enculturation).
Each individual has a unique cultural identity that is composed of his or her core beliefs. Some of
these beliefs may resemble the majority beliefs of their group, while others are a reflection of
individual racial/ethnic identity, gender, age, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, acculturation
and enculturation, and national origin (Hwang 2006). Cultural beliefs influence the interview when
they cause misunderstanding and miscommunication. Dimensions of cultural knowledge that are likely
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to disrupt the interview process include differences in communication and the expression of distress
and cultural beliefs about the client-worker relationship (Hwang 2006; Hwang et al. 2008).
Cultural values such as emotional restraint may characterize some Asian cultures. Asian immigrants
may be uncomfortable expressing their feelings to the interviewer who is a stranger because of their
belief that such behavior will reflect negatively on their own character and the reputation of their
family (Hwang 2006). The observation of client discomfort in the interview can be used to form
hypotheses that can be tested by asking the client if talking to a stranger is uncomfortable. In
acknowledging client discomfort, the worker defuses tension and increases the likelihood of developing
a therapeutic relationship.
The individual’s cultural background may also influence the expression of distress. Asian American,
Hispanic/Latino American, and African American clients may somatize or express psychological
distress through physical symptoms. One explanation is that in some cultures, emotional distress is
interpreted as a sign of mental illness, laziness, or weakness. Physical symptoms, by contrast, are not
stigmatized and elicit support and empathy. The latter is a culturally congruent form of distress, while
the former is not. Thus somatization may protect an individual from shame and worry and reduce
feelings of lack of control (Hwang et al. 2008).
A Hispanic/Latino woman is talking to a worker in an outpatient mental health center:
INTERVIEWEE:
I have no energy at all, and I am headachy. . . . I cannot sleep or eat. . . . This just began about three
months ago.
INTERVIEWER:
Is there anything that changed at all in that time?
No, just that I have been going to church more often to pray for my parents in Mexico, who are sick.
INTERVIEWER: Do you see any connection between these physical symptoms and the situation with your parents?
INTERVIEWEE: No, not at all. What are you saying? I am not crazy!
INTERVIEWEE:
In this vignette the worker was not aware of the influence of culture in the meaning that the client
attributed to her problem. Her comments are interpreted by the client as critical.
The worker who is aware of this cultural influence can use the client’s vocabulary to protect the
client from the experience of stigma, establish trust, and begin to engage the client in the therapeutic
relationship (Aklin and Turner 2006; Comas-Diaz 2006).
The interviewee’s cultural background may also influence his or her expectations of the
client-worker relationship. Asian American and Hispanic/Latino American clients may expect the
worker to conform to cultural etiquette by engaging with them informally in a discussion of their
background, migration history, and family before beginning the formal part of the interview. The
practitioner may also be asked to disclose some personal history. During this small talk, the interviewee
has an opportunity to evaluate the practitioner and assess whether he or she is trustworthy. Flexibility
in responding to these expectations may enhance the likelihood of developing a working relationship
with these clients (Comas-Diaz 2006; Hwang 2006).
In addition to acquiring knowledge of differing cultural beliefs, the interviewer needs to
acknowledge the influence of historical and sociopolitical realities on the interaction. Individuals who
are members of racial/ethnic groups are likely to have experienced racism and discrimination
throughout their lives. Among racial/ethnic minority groups, African Americans in particular have had
a long history of prejudice, segregation, and discrimination in the United States. Research on utilization
of the mental health system indicates that African Americans significantly underuse services (Aklin
and Turner 2006). Negative stereotypes among some Whites, including beliefs that African American
individuals have an inferior mental capacity and that their personality structures deviate from that of
Whites, may contribute to this underutilization (Aklin and Turner 2006).
The influence of the sociopolitical context on the interview is manifested in the form of mistrust
among some African American clients when they first encounter a White interviewer. For example,
White interviewers may notice that African American clients are monitoring their level of disclosure by
sharing no or little information. This behavior may indicate the African American client’s ambivalence
about the “safety” of opening up to a White worker (Ward 2005). If the worker notices indications of
mistrust (e.g., lack of self-disclosure, emotional withdrawal from the interview interaction), it is
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advisable to candidly broach the subject of distrust and racism with the client by saying, “I know this is
a difficult topic to discuss, but I was wondering what it is like for you to talk to a White interviewer. I
ask because I want to be as helpful to you as possible.” Some clients may prefer not to discuss
racial/ethnic differences with the interviewer, even when these issues have some salience to them. If
this is the case, the interviewer can respond as openly and nondefensively as they would in any similar
situation in which there is a miscommunication (Cardemil and Battle 2003).
SKILLS: RACIAL/ETHNIC MINORITY DIFFERENCES
GENERAL INTERVIEWING SKILLS
White interviewees and racial/ethnic minority clients are likely to differ in their rules for nonverbal
communication (Hill 2009; Sue and Sue 2008). For example, in Japanese culture a smile may indicate
embarrassment and apprehension. An interviewer may misinterpret the smile of a Japanese client who
is recalling a frightening experience (Sue and Sue 2008). The rules that regulate nonverbal behavior are
typically out of our conscious awareness. When an individual’s rules for nonverbal behavior are not
followed in an interaction, intense discomfort is aroused. While the source of this discomfort may be
difficult to articulate, there is likely to be a “sense” that something is not right (Hill 2009). The
interviewer is obligated to adapt her own rules for nonverbal behavior to the client’s when a difference
exists. A recommendation is to ask for feedback if the client appears to be experiencing discomfort
(Hill 2009).
Research suggests that racial/ethnic minority clients respond more positively to interviewing
techniques that focus on problem solving than to other techniques (Chang 2009; Sue and Sue 2008).
Asking probing questions about clients’ thoughts and behaviors, offering advice and suggestions, and
using skills training are examples of problem-solving techniques that are associated with positive
interview outcomes among racial/ethnic minority clients. The reasons for this finding are not clear.
Generally, cultural variations in the structure and process of relationships, degree of stigma regarding
help-seeking for psychological distress, and norms for expressive communication may be contributing
factors (Hwang 2006).
When a racial/ethnic minority client is unfamiliar with, and skeptical about, the benefits of
counseling, client engagement may be facilitated with culturally congruent information or advice that
the client may regard as new learning or new ideas. This “gift” demonstrates the benefit of counseling
to the client, motivating his future involvement in the interview (Kim et al. 2003). Among African
American interviewees who approach the interview with a history of White mistreatment,
self-disclosure or advice may indirectly reveal some of the interviewer’s personal thoughts and feelings
to the client to reduce mistrust.
African American clients who have been the targets of racial discrimination are unlikely to
self-disclose until they can judge the interviewer’s trustworthiness (Ward 2005). The willingness of the
interviewer to self-disclose indirectly through advice or interpretation or directly through the sharing of
personal information may reduce to some extent the difference in power and privilege perceived by the
ethnic minority client in relation to the interviewer (Cardemil and Battle 2003; Sue and Sue 2008). This
is turn may contribute to the beginning of a feeling of trust and a lowering of the interviewee’s
defenses.
Because of the continuing influence of implicit racial bias in the interviewer and the current and past
sociopolitical environment, the possibility of tension and conflict in the relationship between the White
interviewer and the racial/ethnic minority client is high. An open conversation early in the interview
about roles and expectations and requests for client feedback about techniques are helpful. Providing an
open opportunity for the client to provide feedback about concerns may encourage racial/ethnic
minority interviewees to disclose areas of need that are not being addressed. Simple acts of courtesy
such as returning phone calls promptly, starting interviews on time, attentive listening, and expressing
interest are particularly salient with clients who may be sensitive to indications of disrespect from
White interviewers (Chang 2009).
SKILLS IN THE INTERPRETED INTERVIEW
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Because of the influx of immigrants to the United States in the past few decades, it is likely that the
worker will encounter clients who are members of racial/ethnic minorities who speak only their native
language or have limited English proficiency. Statistics indicate that the immigrant population in the
United States increased by 8.8 million between 2000 and 2010, a 28 percent increase. The majority of
these immigrants arrived from Latin America, Asia, and Africa (Wilson and Singer 2011).
When the provider is not fluent in the client’s native language, it is advisable to hire a professional
interpreter. Using an interpreter who is a member of the client’s community is less desirable for a
number of reasons. Clients speaking through an interpreter from their own community may decline to
reveal personal information because they are concerned that it will be shared throughout the
community. Further, it is best to avoid asking a family member to interpret unless the client requests it.
Even when the client requests a family interpreter, it is important for the worker to ensure that the
interpreter is serving the client’s welfare. It is possible for an interpreter to distort the interviewee’s
statements to protect the honor of the family or to serve the family’s best interests. For example, if an
interviewee says that his father beats him, the interpreter who is a relative may change the meaning of
the message to protect the father or the family.
Children, in particular, should not be used as interpreters. In the presence of a child interpreter, a
family member may be reluctant to express distress or may omit information that may be judged to be
too intimate, embarrassing, or disturbing. A child interpreter may also be exposed to information that is
inappropriate. For example, a child is likely to be extremely distressed if asked to translate the results
of a medical test that indicate a poor or terminal prognosis for the parent. In addition, the child may
feel responsible for the outcome of the interview and may even be blamed by the family if the outcome
is negative.
The professional interviewer should speak as if he is talking directly to the interviewee. All
translating should be done in the first person (e.g., “I went to work” vs. “She went to work”); this tactic
may decrease the sense of distance or loss of connection between the interviewer and the interviewee
when communication is mediated by a third person. The interpreter should accurately convey the
communication of each participant, including the level of expressiveness of the participants’
statements. It is not appropriate for the interpreter to advise, counsel, or coach the client. The role of
the interpreter is to be neutral in facilitating accurate communication.
In an interpreted interview, the participants should be seated so that the interviewer and interviewee
are positioned close to each other to facilitate eye contact, with the interpreter sitting slightly to the side
of and behind the client. Confidentiality should be addressed by the interpreter at the beginning of the
interview, particularly if the interpreter is a member of the client’s ethnic community (Aronson Fontes
2008).
SEXUAL ORIENTATION DIFFERENCES
The American Psychological Association (2011) defines sexual orientation as “the sex of those to
whom one is sexually and romantically attracted.” Sexual orientation includes categories of same-sex
attraction (gay men or lesbians), opposite-sex attraction (heterosexuals), or attraction to both sexes
(bisexual). A recent estimate of the sexual orientation of the U.S. population ages 18 to 44 found that 3
percent of males and 5 percent of females self-identified as homosexual, bisexual, or “something else”
(U.S. Census Bureau 2012). While public opinion polls in the United States indicate rising acceptance
of homosexuality (PEW Research Center for the People and the Press 2011), lesbians, gays, and
bisexuals (LGB) continue to experience discrimination, rejection, ostracism, and criminal victimization
(Herek and Garnets 2007). While the convention is to refer to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered
individuals with the acronym LGBT, we use LGB in this book because the paucity of literature and
research makes it difficult to discuss transgendered individuals knowledgeably.
SELF-AWARENESS: SEXUAL ORIENTATION DIFFERENCES
Social work practitioners have been socialized in a society that reflects heterosexism. Heterosexism is
an ideological system that “denies, denigrates, and stigmatizes any nonheterosexual form of behavior,
identity, relationship, or community” (Herek 1995, 321). Because of the pervasive nature of
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heterosexism in the culture, it is likely that social work practitioners have internalized biased attitudes
toward LGB persons.
Until approximately thirty years ago, homosexuality was classified as a mental illness by both the
psychiatric and psychological professions. In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association removed
homosexuality as a category of mental illness, and in 1975, the American Psychological Association
(APA) issued a policy statement affirming that homosexuality implied no impairment in psychological
functioning (Herek 2007). The National Association of Social Workers (NASW) also opposes
discrimination based on sexual orientation (NASW 2009). The current view in medicine, psychology,
and social work is that homosexuality is a normal expression of sexuality and is no more likely to be
associated with psychopathology than is heterosexuality.
However, there is evidence that some clinicians continue to equate homosexuality with pathology.
The most extreme expression of this belief is in the recommendation that LGB clients accept
conversion therapy to change their sexual orientation. There is no research that supports the
effectiveness of conversion therapy, and there is a large amount of evidence that it is harmful.
Consistent with these findings, the NASW and other mental health organizations regard conversion
therapy as unethical (APA 2011; NASW 2000).
The influence of more subtle stereotypes about LGB individuals may be found in the interviewer’s
assumptions about parenthood and relationships. Reservations about LGB people as role models for
children may be expressed in an interviewer’s reluctance to place a child for adoption with a gay or
lesbian couple. Stereotypes may also be expressed in the assumption that opposite-sex relationships are
more significant than same-sex relationships. For example, the LGB client may notice that the
interviewer’s inquiries about a partner are superficial and lack depth. This may convey a message that
the interviewer lacks understanding of, and respect for, LGB attachments (Eubanks-Carter, Burckell,
and Goldfried 2005). Subtle sexual prejudice may also be expressed in the interviewer’s avoidance of
LGB issues or in an overemphasis on the topic of sexual orientation when the client’s presenting
problem is unrelated to sexual orientation.
A White gay man in his 60s is talking to a social worker on a medical surgical ward on which his
long-time partner is hospitalized:
INTERVIEWER:
What is it that you are concerned about? The nurse on the floor told me that you asked to talk to me.
INTERVIEWEE: Well, I am Jack’s partner, but because we are not married or related, I am having trouble seeing him in
the hospital.
INTERVIEWER: Uh [shifting in her chair]. Well . . . those are the regulations. Maybe we should talk about the plan for
discharge.
In this exchange, the interviewer lost her focus after the client disclosed that he was gay by mentioning
his relationship with Jack. She then minimized his concerns by focusing on the “regulations” and
changed the subject. This type of interaction communicates bias and will discourage the client from
future contact.
These negative attitudes and behaviors may undermine the creation of an environment in which the
client feels safe and secure enough to form a therapeutic relationship with the interviewer. In a recent
study of LGB clients’ perceptions of therapist characteristics, the negative attitudes described here
were classified as undesirable qualities in a prospective therapist (Burckell and Goldfried 2006).
If the interviewer becomes aware of communicating bias in an interview with a sexual minority
client, the recommended approach is to avoid defensiveness, ask for clarification, and remain open and
receptive to client feedback. The creation of an environment in which the client feels respected,
supported, and valued can facilitate an open discussion of these misstatements (Shelton and
Delgado-Romero 2011).
KNOWLEDGE: SEXUAL ORIENTATION DIFFERENCES
To offer effective services, the interviewer requires knowledge of issues and concerns that are specific
to the LGB interviewee. Two of these issues are sexual stigma and sexual minority identity
development, or “coming out.” Sexual stigma is a specific type of stigma characterized by the
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attribution of an inferior status toward any form of nonheterosexual behavior, relationship, or identity
(Herek, Gillis, and Cogan 2009). Sexual stigma may be expressed in harassment, rejection, hostility,
ostracism, name-calling, and criminal victimization. Several studies have found that LGB individuals
experience poorer mental and physical health than their heterosexual peers because of greater exposure
to stigma-related stressors (Mays and Cochran 2001; Meyer, Schwartz, and Frost 2008).
Another source of stress for LGB individuals is the formation of an LGB sexual identity, or “coming
out.” The majority of LGB individuals begin the process of identity development in late childhood with
a realization of same-sex attraction and then the formation of a lesbian, gay, or bisexual identity in
midadolescence, followed by a first same-sex sexual experience about a year later and then disclosure
of sexual orientation to others when they are in their early 20s (Calzo et al. 2011; Floyd and Stein
2002). If the individual is an early developer, the age of onset of these milestones is in middle
childhood, with disclosure by age 18. Peers and parents may suspect that an individual who exhibits
cross-gender appearance, behaviors, or traits is lesbian, gay, or bisexual in the absence of disclosure.
Because the adolescent is vulnerable and lacks both internal and external resources for coping with
extreme stress, parental rejection or peer harassment related to sexual orientation may be extremely
injurious. For example, LGB adolescents who experience high levels of parental rejection have
increased odds of suicide attempts, depression, substance abuse, and unprotected sex in adulthood
(Ryan et al. 2009). School-based bullying and harassment, particularly of gay men with cross-gender
traits, is associated with suicidal behavior in adolescence (Bontempo and D’Augelli 2002; Friedman et
al. 2006). On the other hand, supportive friends and family acceptance of sexual orientation during
adolescence and young adulthood are associated with less psychological distress and a more integrated
sexual identity (Pachankis and Goldfried 2004; Rosario, Schrimshaw, and Hunter 2008).
Interviewers should be knowledgeable about these unique stressors experienced by LGB
interviewees to guide the interaction toward salient content and to effectively communicate empathy.
However, interviewers should keep the heterogeneity of the LGB population in mind to individualize
their assessments and interventions.
SKILLS: SEXUAL ORIENTATION DIFFERENCES
Prior to an interview, the clinician should consciously counter any assumptions about the sexual
orientation of the interviewee. In particular, it is important not to assume that all interviewees are
heterosexuals. Even when clients are in a relationship with an opposite-sex partner, they may still
identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Lyons et al. 2010). To avoid sending a message that the LGB
interviewee is not welcome, the interviewer should avoid asking questions about an opposite-sex
romantic partner or a spouse. Instead, the interviewer should use more inclusive language, such as
asking about whether the individual is in a relationship or has a partner. This communicates respect.
Gay, lesbian, or bisexual clients may respond positively to selective disclosure of professional
credentials and personal information including sexual orientation in the first interview. It has been
hypothesized that self-disclosure of professional and personal information equalizes power in the
relationship (Borden et al. 2010). Further, similarity in sexual orientation may enhance the perception
of the counselor as attractive, credible, and expert at contributing, at least initially, to the development
of rapport. However, sexual orientation is not the most important criterion that nonheterosexuals seek
in a counselor (Saulnier 2002). A competent heterosexual interviewer can also be effective. In common
with others, LGB interviewees respond positively to warmth, friendliness, respect, empathy, and
acceptance (Burckell and Goldfried 2006).
Because discrimination and prejudice related to sexual stigma can be stressful for LGB interviewees
and impact their sense of safety, it is extremely important to create a sense of security in the therapeutic
environment (APA 2011). The communication of LGB-affirming attitudes, including an understanding
of the impact of sexual stigma on the interviewee, support for the client’s adoption of an LGB identity,
and an understanding of when sexual orientation is salient, may facilitate a sense of trust and
agreement on goals, contributing to the formation of a therapeutic alliance (Burckell and Gold-fried
2006). Even when the client’s primary problem is not sexual orientation, displaying affirming and
validating attitudes toward LGB issues is perceived as helpful (Burckell and Goldfried 2006).
The interviewer should be familiar with and be able to share information about community resources
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available to LGB clients such as gay-straight alliances in the public schools, leisure and support groups,
and community agencies that offer LGB-affirming health and mental health services (Pachankis and
Goldfried 2004). Integration in the LGB community can be a protective factor because the individual
can access group resources in responding to sexual stigma, in addition to their personal coping
resources (Herek and Garnets 2007).
In child care settings specifically, the interviewer’s understanding of the issues of confidentiality in
regard to sexual orientation are important. Adolescents in care may be concerned about being “outed”
because they have experienced or anticipate stigma or rejection from foster parents, foster youth, and
child welfare professionals (Ragg, Patrick, and Ziefert 2006). They may also be concerned that if they
disclose their sexual orientation to the worker, the worker will reveal this information to others,
“outing” them to the child welfare system. Because of these issues, the interviewer will be most helpful
by focusing on confidentiality and its limits in the opening of the interview. The interviewer can also
convey support by respecting the youth’s concerns and not documenting sexual orientation in the case
record. Advocacy in setting and upholding agency standards that respect sexual orientation may also
reduce the exposure to sexual stigma in the system (Ragg et al. 2006).
ELDERLY CLIENT DIFFERENCES
We are concerned at this point with a special adaptation of the interview associated with a special
identified group of interviewees: the elderly. Almost everything we discussed in the text regarding
therapeutic relationships, the interviewing process, interviewing techniques—everything we identified
as indicative of competent, effective interviewing—is as applicable for interviewing the elderly as it is
for cross-cultural clients. Our focus here is to identify the particular interviewing adaptation uniquely
associated with interviewing the elderly.
The population of the United States will grow increasingly older over the next decades. Between
2010 and 2050, the elderly population will grow by 45 percent. Most of the increase is due to the
graying of the baby boomer generation, who began to turn 65 in 2011. The population will become
more ethnically diverse as the aggregate ethnic minority population becomes the majority by 2042.
These population projections have implications for social work. The numbers of elderly individuals
living in the community who can benefit from social and health services will grow, resulting in a need
for social work professionals (Vincent and Velkoff 2010).
SELF-AWARENESS: ELDERLY CLIENT DIFFERENCES
In preparation for an interview with an elderly interviewee, the interviewer is obligated to engage in
some introspective exploration of attitudes toward the elderly. In a youth-oriented society, exposure to
ageism is endemic. Some stereotypical attitudes and feelings about the elderly are that they are
unattractive, rigid, dependent, unproductive, and grumpy.
Generally, social workers, along with other human service personnel, are reluctant to select a career
in gerontology. There may be a perception that work with the elderly is not valued and that there is
little to be accomplished from a clinical perspective (Lagana and Shanks 2002). Ageism among social
workers may be expressed through biased assessments and in overprotective and paternalistic attitudes
(Alley, Cherry, and Erdman 2009; Kane 2004).
Workers may be uncomfortable with elderly clients for a variety of reasons. The focus of the
interview with an elder on death and loss may provoke workers’ fears about their own mortality and
decline. The younger interviewer may unconsciously assume the role of a child and relate to the older
client as a parent, protecting the client as he had cared for his own parents or trying to resolve regrets
about the parent-child relationship in the work with the interviewee (Atkins and Loewenthal 2004).
Elderly clients may present a challenge to younger workers because they are perceived as belonging to
a different time and place. There are differences in language, values, attitudes, and exposure to
historical events. This lack of shared experiences may result in difficulty on the part of the younger
worker in feeling empathy for the older client (Atkins and Loewenthal 2004).
Many interviewers are members of the generation sandwiched between two dependent groups:
young children and elderly parents. Some may actually be in the process of having to divide and devote
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limited time, energy, and resources to two competing obligations. Even those not currently in this
position may anxiously anticipate the problem. Despite their most altruistic feelings and sense of
obligation, they might resent the requirements that the situation demands (Richardson and Barusch
2006).
Interviewers may not be oblivious to intergenerational competition for resources. The very
substantial allocations for meeting the increasing needs of the elderly through Social Security,
Medicare, Medicaid, outlays for nursing homes, prescription drugs, and so on means that less is
available for support of programs in which the younger generation have a primary interest, such as
education, health care of children, financial supports for low-income families, unemployment benefits,
and so forth.
Without being aware of them, these feelings may affect the attitudes toward the elderly that
determine interview interaction. Becoming aware is a precondition for control to prevent or ameliorate
negative-oriented relationships.
KNOWLEDGE: ELDERLY CLIENT DIFFERENCES
SENSORY LOSS AND INTERVIEW COMPANIONS
The elderly client may exhibit normal age-related vision and hearing loss. Impaired vision is likely to
affect the ability to see objects that are closer and to see in the absence of bright lighting. Prescription
glasses can correct for these problems. Hearing loss is the most frequent sensory loss among older
adults, affecting the ability to hear high-frequency sounds in men and low-frequency sounds in women.
Hearing loss more than vision loss will affect interview interaction (U.S. Census Bureau 2011). It
may be difficult to determine whether an older adult has a hearing problem. Few older adults with
hearing loss wear hearing aids, and among those who do, the hearing aid may not be visible. In the
harried pace of the medical setting, providers have assumed that problems in communicating with the
older hearing-impaired patient indicated disorientation or cognitive impairment (O’Halloran, Worrall,
and Hickson 2011). Indicators of a hearing impairment include frequent requests to repeat information,
a facial expression of strained listening, and a gaze intent on the speaker’s face and lips.
Elderly interviewees may present other problems for the interviewer in communication. Some have
dental problems that make them difficult to understand. Strokes leave some with impaired speech.
Their voices may be weak and tremulous. And some clients for whom English is not a first language
may be difficult to understand due to accents or limited vocabulary.
It is not uncommon for the elderly client to bring a family member to the interview to help with
communication. A companion may compensate for a client’s sensory or cognitive deficits by
transmitting information about the client to the interviewer and facilitating the client’s understanding of
the interviewer’s communication. If tasks are assigned for between interviews, the companion can
provide support to the client in implementation. Companions also encourage elderly relatives to ask
questions or clarify concerns in the interview, leading to a better understanding of the information
transmitted. As long as the companion does not dominate the interviewee, her presence can have
positive effects (Wolff and Roter 2011).
DEPRESSION
Many problems that are specific to aging as a phase of the life cycle can be of concern for interview
interaction. As individuals age, retirement, widowhood, and limited mobility result in a decrease in the
size of the social network, in the closeness of relationships, and in the composition of the network as
the number of nonfamily network members declines (Cornwell, Laumann, and Schumm 2008; Gellis
2010). Perceived social isolation or loneliness is more common among the elderly over age 75 and is
associated with poorer physical and psychological health (O’Luanaigh and Lawlor 2008).
The social, economic, and physical challenges of aging may increase the rates of depression,
particularly among the low-income elderly. Among the factors contributing to depression in this
population are grief over the loss of a spouse, multiple chronic health conditions, impairments in
Activities of Daily Living (ADLs, such as bathing, dressing, and using the toilet), financial concerns,
and unmet needs for community supports (Choi and Kimbell 2006).
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Elderly individuals may not seek treatment for depression for a variety of reasons. The elderly have a
lack of objective knowledge about the symptoms of depression and report psychological distress in
somatic terms. It is not uncommon for the elderly to assume that depression is a normal part of aging.
Among the low-income elderly, multiple psychosocial concerns may leave little energy or motivation
to prioritize depression as a problem (Proctor et al. 2008).
COGNITIVE AND PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS
Elderly individuals with cognitive and mobility limitations frequently need assistance with ADLs and
Instrumental Activities of Daily Living (IADLs, such as shopping, managing money, and doing
laundry). Home and Community Based Services (HCBS) provides assistance to these elders with daily
activities so they can remain in their homes. HCBS include personal care, chore assistance,
transportation, congregate meals, respite care, and adult day care (Kassner 2011).
In 2009, about 5.2 million adults aged 65 or older and 1.7 million adults aged 85 or older needed
assistance with ADLs and IADLs. Those with long-term care needs comprised 14 percent of the
population aged 65 and older and 38 percent of the population aged 85 and older (Kassner 2011).
Poorer elders have a greater likelihood of functional impairment, possibly because health issues
contributed to lost wages and lower earning potential during middle and later adulthood (Kassner
2011).
The family provides the majority of personal care and chores services to the community-dwelling
elderly. About three-fourths of community-dwelling disabled older adults rely exclusively on the
family for assistance. Another third supplement family care with paid services (out of pocket, private
insurance, or publicly supported programs). HCBC is primarily funded by Medicaid, the public health
insurance program for the poor. Strict income and categorical restrictions (type of population served)
limit eligibility for Medicaid coverage of HCBS to the poorest and sickest of the elderly population
(Kassner 2011). In the absence of Medicaid coverage, families and older adults either pay out of pocket
or use private long-term-care insurance to pay for services (Kassner 2011). Because of the level of
expense involved, both of these options are practical only for the most affluent.
Research indicates that home- and community-based services are underutilized by older adults and
their families. Among the reasons for lack of use provided by caregivers of older adults is “no need for
the service.” In this case, perception of need may be influenced by a lack of knowledge about the care
recipient’s health care condition and the potential benefits of long-term care in providing support for
disabled individuals. A second reason endorsed by caregivers, “no awareness of the service,” may
indicate a lack of knowledge about the formal service delivery system (Casado, van Vulpen, and Davis
2010). Other reasons for underutilization of HCBS include high cost and reluctance to allow strangers
in the house (Casado et al. 2010).
SPIRITUAL AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
Physical and cognitive impairment, loss of autonomy, and increasing awareness of mortality may
contribute to a concern with religion and spiritual beliefs in the elderly. Generally, spirituality has been
defined as a sense of transcendence or a connection with a larger power or purpose, while religion is a
formal institutionalized pattern of beliefs and practices (Nelson-Becker 2004). Religion and spirituality
have been related to indicators of mental health in older adults. Religious institutions may prohibit
unhealthy practices such as use of alcohol, nicotine, and drugs; positive interactions with a religious
community may provide social support, and religious/spiritual beliefs may facilitate positive
reinterpretations of stressful events (Baetz and Toews 2009; Greenfield, Vaillant, and Marks 2009).
Thus religion/spirituality can be a resource for coping among the elderly (Nelson-Becker 2004).
SKILLS: ELDERLY CLIENT DIFFERENCES
The interviewer should be sensitive to the elderly client’s level of stamina and stop the interview if the
client seems to be fatigued. Adequate lighting and comfortable chairs communicate thoughtfulness.
When the client is hearing impaired, the worker should begin the interview by asking the client, “How
can I best communicate with you?” In general, the hard-of-hearing client will require a room with low
or no background noise and slow enunciation to facilitate lipreading. Checking in with the client
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periodically to determine whether there is any miscommunication or if communication is satisfactory is
helpful (Iezzoni et al. 2001).
In developing a relationship with an elderly client, the worker should initially demonstrate respect
for the client through the use of formal surnames and courtesy, such as greeting the client with a smile
and a handshake (Sung and Dunkle 2009). The elderly individual may be slow to engage with the
worker because of concerns about stigma and a tendency to minimize or dismiss feelings of
psychological distress. It may be helpful to offer support and reassurance to the client by normalizing
these reactions and recognizing their strength in coming to the appointment.
The level of directiveness in work with elderly clients is determined by an assessment of their
personal and social resources and the severity of the problem. If the client has many internal and
external supports and a problem that is less severe, the interview can be a collaborative one (Richarson
and Barusch 2006). Research suggests that client-identified problems are more likely to be resolved,
possibly because the client is more motivated to work on issues that cause them anxiety or worry
(Enguidanos et al. 2011).
Integration of questions about religion/spirituality in the interview is recommended to offer clients
an opportunity to explore these issues. A general question like “While many people value religion or
spirituality, others do not. What are your beliefs?” may be followed by queries exploring how the client
coped with past or current problems and the influence of their beliefs (religious or not) on their coping
(Nelson-Becker 2004). Reminiscence or recalling past life events enhance a feeling of competence by
reviewing how one coped with past difficulties and achieved important goals. Identification of previous
coping successes may be applied in the interview to address current problems (Bohlmeijer et al. 2007).
Educating the client by sharing information about the benefits of community resources for the
caregiver or care recipient, as well as knowledge about what resources are available, who is entitled to
receive them, and how to apply them, may facilitate the ability to make an informed decision about
utilization (Casado et al. 2010).
A more directive interviewing approach is necessary with clients whose decisional capacity is
impaired and whose behavior poses a danger to themselves or others. In balancing beneficence with
self-determination, the practitioner will pressure the client to accept interventions only when lower
levels of directiveness fail (Healy 2003).
The concept of cultural competence includes cultural self-awareness, knowledge, and skills. These
components of cultural competence are discussed as they relate to racial/ethnic minorities, sexual
minorities, and the elderly.
Implicit racism—conscious beliefs about racial equality that exist simultaneously with unconscious
racial bias—may contribute to confusion and mistrust between African American and White
communicators. Dimensions of cultural knowledge that are likely to disrupt the interview process
include differences in the expression of psychological distress and cultural expectations regarding the
formality of the relationship. The influence of past experiences with racial prejudice and discrimination
may be a barrier to developing trust early in the interaction with an African American client when the
worker is White. Interviewing skills should be adapted for differing cultural rules about nonverbal
behavior, the intervention modality, and client expectations of the interviewer. When the provider and
client speak different languages, it is advisable to hire a professional interpreter.
While currently homosexuality is viewed by social work, psychology, and psychiatry as a normal
expression of sexuality, some practitioners, including social workers, express a bias toward LGB
clients in recommending that they accept conversion therapy to change their sexual orientation. There
is no research to support the effectiveness of conversion therapy, and its practice is considered
unethical by NASW.
LGB clients are exposed to unique stressors. Sexual stigma or the attribution of an inferior status to
nonheterosexual relationships and behaviors is expressed in harassment, ostracism, name calling, and
criminal victimization. Exposure to sexual stigma has been associated with poorer mental health among
LGB individuals. Another source of stress for LGB individuals is the formation of an LGB sexual
identity, or “coming out.” Beginning in late childhood and ending in young adulthood, the coming-out
process may provoke parental rejection and school-based harassment. The odds of suicidal ideation and
behavior are higher among those LGB adolescents who come out in a negatively charged environment.
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Interviewers are cautioned to avoid the assumption that all of their clients are heterosexual. The use
of inclusive language on intake forms and in the interview (e.g., instead of questions about marital
status, substitute questions about an intimate relationship or a relationship with a partner) sends a
welcoming message to the LGB client. Because of exposure to discrimination and prejudice related to
sexual stigma, it is important to create a sense of psychological safety by communicating gay-affirming
attitudes.
Ageism is expressed in negative stereotypes about the elderly, such as that they are rigid, dependent,
grumpy, and unattractive. Social workers are not attracted to work with the elderly because it is
considered low-status and ungratifying. Younger workers may be uncomfortable with the topic of
death and loss and may feel awkward in a relationship with a client who is the age of their parents.
Social work with the elderly requires knowledge of the sensory losses associated with normal aging.
Because of financial, social, and physical losses, the low-income elderly, in particular, are vulnerable to
depression. The poorer elderly are also more likely to be dependent in the performance of daily
activities necessary to remain in their homes. They rely on their families exclusively for caregiving.
Home- and community-based services are rarely used by these families because of a lack of awareness
and knowledge. In regard to interviewing skills, the interviewer can accommodate hearing loss by
speaking slowly to facilitate lipreading and by choosing a room that is low in background noise. If a
client has strong internal and external resources, the interview can be a collaborative one. The uses of a
problem-solving approach and reminiscence are effective with elderly clients. The extent to which the
client does or does not value religious/spiritual beliefs is suggested to identify coping resources.
Education of the client and caregiver about community resources is suggested to increase their
awareness and knowledge about services. A more directive approach is recommended for clients who
lack decision-making capacity and who present a danger to themselves or others.
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PROBLEMATIC INTERVIEWS
CROSS-CULTURAL INTERVIEWS pose special problems in adapting the interview to cultural
differences between participants. Some interviewees pose problems of adaptation because of special
difficulties they bring to the interview situation. For reasons of space limitations, we have selected two
special interviewee groups for more elaborate discussion: the involuntary adult client and the sexually
abused child. The involuntary client constitutes a fairly large interviewee subset. Interviewing children
who may have been sexually abused is a task frequently assigned to social workers because the law
often requires that other professionals—medical personnel, educators, and police—report any
suspicions of abuse to social agencies.
INVOLUNTARY INTERVIEWEES
People come to an agency interview with various levels of commitment to the experience. Some make
a completely voluntary decision to participate, whereas others come involuntarily. The levels of
voluntarism are in the nature of a continuum rather than a dichotomy, running from eager to get help to
willing to tolerate service to ambivalence, reluctance, resistance, opposition, and hostility to use of the
service.
Involuntary interviewees are those required by court order to seek agency help and those who have
been pressured to use the service. Such interviewees include alcohol and drug abusers, those on
probation or parole, and clients who have neglected or physically, emotionally, or sexually abused their
children. Correctional programs, schools, substance abuse programs, and outpatient and inpatient
mental health, child protection, and domestic abuse agencies refer these clients. Juvenile courts may
refer adolescent offenders. Such clients often make contact because not coming would result in the
imposition of even more punitive conditions, such as activation of a suspended prison sentence,
termination of parental rights, or return to a correctional facility.
Another group of interviewees also come to the agency in opposition to a self-determined
preference. They would rather not be there if they had the choice. Such interviewees come as a
consequence of social, psychological, or professional pressures and stipulations. Unless they come, a
wife threatens divorce, an employer threatens job termination, a father threatens disinheritance, a child
will not be returned from foster care, or an adolescent will not be allowed to return to school. Their
acquiescence to agency contact is not legally mandated, but they are coerced into coming as a condition
of restoration or preservation of a valued personal aspect of his or her life. This group of interviewees
has been termed nonvoluntary clients.
Coerced nonvoluntary clients and mandated involuntary clients are different. Mandated clients are
impelled by a legal decision requiring their participation. Coerced clients are propelled by social and
emotional pressures from spouses, parents, doctors, clergy, and/or school administrators who are
strongly recommending their participation.
Because the mandated client is an extreme instance of the involuntary client, much of what we say
here is applicable to others in the coerced non-voluntary client group. Our concern here is not with
resistance as it is classically defined—namely, unconscious or preconscious defenses by the ego
against communications that might create anxiety, guilt, shame, and the like. Resistance on the part of
the mandated client is a defense against externally imposed threats. Resistance here means anything the
interviewee does to impede the objectives of the interview. Our concern here is with conscious,
deliberate, openly acknowledged efforts to oppose unwanted interactions or intrusions, to subvert the
efforts of the worker to conduct an interview, and to reject the role of being a client of the agency.
More recently the term reactance has been applied to such behavior so as not to confuse it with what
has been identified as classical resistance.
The voluntary client comes to the interview having resolved any ambivalence about accepting the
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influence of the interviewer. The involuntary client comes resisting the interviewer’s interventions. As
Hutchison (1987) notes, the involuntary client is forced to recognize the formal authority of the
interviewer as agency representative but has not accepted the interviewer’s psychological authority.
Mandated clients challenge professional authority and test its limits (Gitterman 1989).
Social work interviewers are uneasy about working with involuntary and nonvoluntary clients. They
feel rejected and inadequate because their usually effective interviewing skills often fail to work. They
resent having to expend time on those who refuse help when they might use the time to help those who
would gratify them by responding positively. Interviewers rarely encounter the kind of naked
opposition that such clients sometimes display, so they have little experience in dealing with it. It is
easy to be intimidated by this kind of interviewee.
The seemingly incompatible demands of the community—that the agency be both helpful and
controlling—become highly visible in an interview with the involuntary client. The interviewer is faced
with both an ethical and a pragmatic question. The ethical question involves the morality of acting as
an agent of social control on behalf of the legal system, which has denied the client the right of
self-determination in the decision to contact the agency. In cooperating with the legal system, is the
worker colluding in the unethical denial of the client’s right to self-determination? However, refusing
to accept the referral that puts the worker in the dual role of helper and controller involves the unethical
rejection of the clients’ beneficent entitlement to the right for service even though the client doesn’t
recognize the need.
There is the additional pragmatic consideration as to whether the worker can actually be of help in
those situations. Workers’ skepticism is based on the fact that, unlike some medical procedures, any
kind of counseling requires active participation by the interviewee. Another prerequisite for effective
helping is that the interviewee recognize that a problem exists. In the case of the involuntary client, this
is often not the case. Other people are discomfited by the interviewee’s behavior; the client is not. The
interviewee attributes the problem to someone else. Involuntary clients are frequently in denial about
the existence, significance, and/or consequences of their problems.
GETTING STARTED
There have been efforts to identify the stages toward acceptance of involvement in a process of change
(Prochaska, DiClemente, and Norcross 1992). Initially the interviewee is in a reactive stance—not only
uninvolved and unengaged but in opposition to being involved and engaged. The initial stage of change
requires some level of acceptance, however minimal, in order to approve participation. Unless that
happens, nothing further can happen, which makes the success or failure of the initial interviews
crucial.
In an effort to achieve this initial stage, the interviewer, as always, must start from where the
interviewee is—where she is coming from. The interviewer accepts the fact that the interviewee is not
unmotivated but rather differently motivated. The interviewer tries to understand the situation from the
interviewee’s perspective, from the interviewee’s point of view.
The referring agency has robbed these clients of some measure of autonomy by requiring them to do
something they would rather not do. Like any mature adult, they react to such demeaning infringement
on their freedom with anger and hostility. What appears to be deviant, illogical, and self-damaging to
others may be defined differently by interviewees. Even if clients’ behaviors are problematic to others,
the behaviors are giving the clients some measure of satisfaction (e.g., the euphoria of getting “high,”
the release of rage in the physical abuse of a child), and they are not sure they want to give them up.
Becoming involved means clients have to acknowledge failure and engage in an unfamiliar process
requiring a sacrifice of autonomy and a grant of some controls to others. They have to disclose much of
their intimate life to others with no certainty as to how those people will use the information. In
addition, they are not sure how the whole experience will be helpful to them.
In the initial interview, the interviewee is in what has been termed the stage of precontemplation
—denying that he has a problem and feeling coerced into the referral to the agency (Prohaska et al.
1992). The interviewer faces the problem of converting an authority without the power to influence
into an authority with freely granted power to influence. The worker has the authority—granted to the
agency by the community and delegated by the agency to the worker—to schedule an interview with
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the client. However, initially the worker has no power to influence. In response to authority, mandated
clients are physically present, but they may still refuse to cooperate and block any effort by the worker
to involve them in the interaction. Authority does not guarantee the worker the power to make
interviewees do anything they choose not to do. Only as workers induce clients to mitigate their
opposition can interviewers attain any power to influence.
Involuntary/nonvoluntary clients use a variety of evasive and diversionary tactics to avoid serious
discussion of their problems. The overtalkative, rambling interviewee’s resistance may be equally
effective but less apparent than that of the openly taciturn interviewee. Interventions by the interviewer
are met with vague, uncommunicative responses; brief, uninformative answers; evasive comments;
inattention; irrelevant diversions; and persistent silence. Verbosity and small talk are oppositional
behaviors, frustrating productive interviewing. Although some clients openly acknowledge that they
“wouldn’t have come if I hadn’t been told I had to” or “didn’t ask to come or want to come,” others are
covert resisters. They go through the motions; they are overly compliant or excessively agreeable,
defensively avoidant or uncooperatively taciturn.
The problem is to get beyond these tactics and influence interviewees to change their motivation to
some degree from opposition to acceptance of the interview. Interviewees must additionally accept the
role as interviewee and the obligation to participate in the tasks that the role requires. With effort,
interviewers can aid interviewees to accept responsibility for the situation and acknowledge that they
have a problem that they need to address. The objective is to help the involuntary/nonvoluntary
interviewee see the need for the service, perceive the service as appropriate, and believe the service can
help her with her problem (Altman 2003).
In responding to the interviewee’s oppositional behavior, the interviewer manifests all the facilitating
attitudes that counter the attitudes that fuel such behavior. When the worker is accepting, empathetic,
respectful, interested, and individualizing and maximizes, to the extent possible, the interviewee’s
entitlement to autonomy, it makes it difficult for the interviewee to maintain a negative stance. It is
hard to fight with someone who does not want to fight with you, who listens acceptingly to what you
have to say, and who does not challenge or threaten you.
The facilitating approach demonstrates to interviewees how they will be treated if they decide to
become involved with the agency. The interviewer disarms the client’s motivation to continue to be
negative and enhances the client’s motivation to cooperate. Faced with persistent negativity, the
interviewer might wedge the door open by asking neutral questions about the interviewee’s life and
general situation that have little to do with the substance of the referral.
The interviewer needs to be alert to any intimation, however slight or oblique, that some aspect of
opposition is moderating and encourage it. A significant aspect in helping the interviewee move from
uninvolvement to beginning involvement is to help the interviewee accept responsibility for the
behavior that needs changing.
Involuntary interviewees may present themselves as blameless. They deny responsibility and give
excuses: “I was drunk”; “I was sick”; “I was very upset”; “Nobody told me”; “They provoked me”;
“My friends forced me.” Rather than seeing themselves as needing help, coerced interviewees see
themselves as a victim of other people’s manipulations.
A correctional social worker says:
When we interview guys in prison, our first job is to get them into prison. Now that sounds paradoxical, but while
these guys are in prison physically, emotionally they are not. Many of them are convinced they shouldn’t be there, they
have been railroaded, it was these other guys, and so on. So our first job is to get them to accept that they are there for
a reason and they are responsible for that reason.
Involuntary clients often use silence as an impregnable defense in opposing the interview and as an
aggression against the interviewer. The interviewer needs to respond. Brianna is a 16-year-old
adolescent who has dropped out of high school and was ordered by the juvenile court to see a social
worker. Brianna enters the interview room, does not acknowledge the social worker’s greeting, and sits
down with her face averted.
INTERVIEWER:
I know you are seeing me because the court ordered you to, and I can imagine you’re not too happy
about the whole thing.
BRIANNA: [Silence]
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INTERVIEWER:
Could you tell me how you feel about this?
[Silence]
INTERVIEWER: Could you tell me what you’re thinking about now? I’d very much like to hear.
BRIANNA: Nothing.
INTERVIEWER: Is there anything you would like to talk about?
BRIANNA: [Silence]
INTERVIEWER: I would like to help you in any way I can, and I think I can be of some help. But you would have to tell
me what you might want me to help you to change.
BRIANNA: [Silence]
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BRIANNA:
Saying something like “Sometimes I guess you feel like talking, but other times, like now, I guess
you don’t” tends to suggest that the interviewee’s resistant behavior is not a fixed personality attribute
but a response to this situation. Interviewers who disclose that they have reacted similarly on occasion
sometimes find that doing so helps to dissolve some of the opposition: “Your silence reminds me of the
times I felt forced to go to confession but did not want to confess anything to anybody.”
Initially, the worker needs to deal directly and explicitly with the resentment of the coerced client.
The worker does this by openly recognizing the circumstances that brought the interviewee to the
interview and the negative feelings this likely has evoked and by expressing empathy with the feelings:
I know that you have been required by the court to meet with me. I can understand that since this is something you
yourself did not freely decide to do, you might have some strong feelings about this. People don’t like to be told what
to do, and I can’t blame them. I am interested in learning from you how you feel about this.
Rather than countering the opposition directly, the interviewer goes with it, joining the interviewee
by affirming the interviewee’s entitlement to opposition. Accepting and empathizing with the
interviewee’s oppositional statements can help to defuse them. Working with the opposition rather than
adversatively rejecting it allies the interviewer with the interviewee. Starting with attention to the
interviewee’s opposition is starting where the client is.
Interviewees who come because they are forced to are highly likely to have negative feelings about
coming. Consequently, the risk is low in suggesting that the interviewee share any feelings of anger:
“Since everyone is different, I don’t know for sure that you feel this way, but I can imagine that you
might be angry about having to meet with me.” Although accepting and responding empathetically to
hostile, even insulting, responses from an interviewee who feels imposed on, the worker should not
apologize because the interviewee has been required to come. The worker should be explicit in making
the conditions of the contact clear:
It’s very clear that you are really angry about this. And I can imagine that if I were in your shoes, I would feel the same
way. But the court has made contact with us a condition of your continuing in the community. And we work along
with the court in implementing the requirement. If you fail to maintain contact, we would have to notify the court, and
you would have to serve your prison time.
We can depersonalize the issues by referring to the court order and agency rules that constrain the
behavior of the interviewer as well as the interviewee:
I can understand that, given where you are coming from, the requirement that you meet with me may seem like an
oppressive imposition. But both you and I are stuck with that. Now, given the reality that we have to meet, how do you
want to use the time? Is there anything you would like to talk about? Anything with which you think we can be of
some help? It’s your choice. It’s up to you. I can only help you if you help me to help you.
The social worker should describe the terms of the mandate to the client, including the client’s
behavior under question, the sources of the sanction for the agency’s involvement, what happens if the
client resists participation, and the threshold at which coercive action will be undertaken. The
interviewer should present this information in a straightforward, nonconfrontational manner.
Interviewers are genuine in accepting that they have authority vis-à-vis the interviewee. Workers can
express this authority in the contact with the involuntary client in such a way that the client perceives it
as an expression of caring. Interviewers can merely point out that their authority in this instance is
designed to help the involuntary client to refrain from engaging in self-damaging behavior. The
interviewer acts in the guise of a surrogate supportive superego.
Aware that the interviewee probably associates the interviewer with the punitive court, the worker
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should be clear and explicit that the agency is not the court, that the interviewer is not an employee of
the court, and that agency treatment is not punishment.
INITIATING CHANGE
Throughout the interview, the worker tries to maximize the interviewee’s scope of self-determination.
By mandating the contact the court has limited the interviewee’s right in one respect: the client’s right
to refuse contact with the agency. Within the limits of the agency contact, the worker has discretion to
provide a variety of options. In consultation with interviewees and in response to their preferences,
interviewers determine what part of the general situation the client wants to deal with, the specifics of
scheduling, how the interviewer chooses to deal with the subproblem they have selected for
consideration, and the like. We can also suggest autonomy by asking interviewees how they would like
to be addressed.
In line with self-determination, we recognize that interviewees have the right to refuse contact with
the agency and accept the consequences that result from such a refusal. We are all familiar with the
concept of informed consent. Similarly, we need to help the interviewee with a decision of informed
opposition. Do interviewees clearly know and understand what will happen if they choose to continue
to reject contact with the agency? The worker has to be clear about the consequences of this.
The interviewer attempts to engage the interviewee in a collaborative discussion of aspects of his life
that are problematic or dissatisfying for him and for which he might want help—and for which the
agency is ready to offer help. The collaborative, joint participatory nature of the interaction is, once
again, a demonstration of respect for the interviewee’s autonomy. And, once again, involvement in
such a discussion requires the client to enact the role of interviewee and the tasks inherent to the role.
When the legal system refers interviewees, they are likely to want to change something, if only to get
the legal system off their back. Individuals who have been convicted of a crime, who are alcoholics or
drug abusers, or who neglect or abuse their children are sufficiently attuned to their environment to
know that their behavior carries a stigma. People like to live in harmony with others and experience
pleasure rather than pain in relationships, parenthood, and on the job.
Interviewees are aware of the personal negative consequences of their behavior. Some component of
interviewees’ ambivalence about their situation does press for change. Interviewers ally themselves
with this positive component.
Mandated clients often have a strong motive for cooperating in the interview. For some, cooperation
may result in the end of probation, the return of a driver’s license, or regaining custody of their
children. Interviewers can use such motives to obtain interviewees’ active participation.
INTERVIEWEE:
It’s hell being without a driver’s license. It’s more than inconvenient; it’s embarrassing.
What would you like to do to get it back?
INTERVIEWEE: Well, you tell me. I think I might be ready to listen.
INTERVIEWER: That’s very good. Let’s talk about that.
INTERVIEWER:
We might exploit conflicts in the clients’ value system that might induce change. The worker
reports:
He said that she knew that saying he was a real loser made him mad, but she kept saying it over and over again, and
this time he couldn’t control himself and he hit her. So she made him do it.
I pointed out that he had said that he hated to come here because it was a violation of his autonomy, his
independence. And here his wife was violating his independence. She made him do what he said he didn’t want to do.
She was controlling him. Where was his autonomy?
If possible, an effort is made to translate any concerns the interviewee expresses so that they are
related to the requirements that brought them to the agency. For instance, while Ms. S. does not
acknowledge that her hoarding poses a safety hazard for her child, she wants a homemaker to help her
clean the house for the holidays. She might agree to a contract that states that she will clean the house
with the assistance of a homemaker by Thanksgiving so it is no longer a safety hazard for her child
(Rooney 2009).
MODELING
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In her behavior the interviewer is modeling pro-social approaches to interpersonal interaction. If a
positive relationship is established between interviewer and interviewee, the interviewee may be
prompted to emulate such pro-social behaviors in identification with the interviewer. In modeling
where she is coming from, the interviewer expresses where to find appropriate support for responsible
parenting, marital harmony, and so on.
Interviewers support, praise, and reinforce both interviewees’ recognition of the harm done as a
result of the actions in question and expressions of interest in programs that deal with those actions. On
the other hand, the interviewer might challenge with care expressions in support of sexist or racist ideas
(i.e., “She should have been home with the kids; that’s where she belongs”).
Throughout, an effort must be made to align interviewees’ expressed interests, motivations, and
needs with what is being required of them. The better the congruence and fit between the interviewees’
perspective and the agency demands, the greater the likelihood that some degree of interview success
will be achieved (Altman 2003; Rooney 2008).
The small forward steps in the change process for moving from rejection toward the beginning of
participation are addressed in the literature on motivational interviewing (Miller and Rollnick 2002)
and solution-focused interviewing (De Jong and Berg 2001). The model for motivational change
follows from the “transtheoretical” formulation proposed by Prochaska and colleagues (1992), and it is
often cited in the involuntary client literature (Rooney 2009; Trotter 2007). The stages of change are
represented in a continuum from “precontemplation,” where no problem is acknowledged, to some
awareness of the problem, to ultimate acceptance of the need for change.
The interventions that are likely to affect progress through the continuum can only be implemented
in the context of a positive relationship. However, studies concerning interviews with involuntary or
nonvoluntary interviewees indicate some pervasive modification to the interviewer’s role (Skeem et al.
2007). In addition to the usual elements that characterize the positive relationship, there is an element
of firmness. The necessity for reconciling the dual help-control nature of involuntary or nonvoluntary
interaction requires that an element of authority be embedded in the positive relationship configuration
of acceptance, trust, caring, and respect.
TERMINATION AND EVALUATION
Toward the end of the interview, the interviewer tries to evaluate, support, and strengthen the level of
self-attribution the interviewee might feel toward changes in behavior that comply with requirements
for change. In line with this, the interviewer might explore with the interviewee those elements in her
support system that would undermine efforts toward change.
The level of effectiveness of interventions with involuntary or nonvoluntary interviewees has been
the subject of research. In a summary of an earlier review of the literature on outcomes, Rooney (1994,
89) notes that “a review of the effectiveness literature suggest(s) that legally mandated clients can have
more successful results than we had earlier thought to be the case. However, these more positive results
contain the caution that coerced intervention often produces time limited benefits that do not last
beyond the use of external pressures.” A reasonable summary of more recent reviews (Chovanec 2009;
Rooney 2009; Snyder and Anderson 2009; Trotter 2007) would suggest that following the prescriptions
generally recommended in the literature would achieve a limited measure of success. Box 13.1
provides several suggestions for interviewing the involuntary client.
THE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE INTERVIEW
The child sexual abuse interview is, once again, a problematic interview. The interviewee is a child; the
content of the interview is of a highly sensitive, personal nature; and a high level of responsibility is
involved because of the possibility that it might result in legal action. The interviewer might be asked
to testify about the interview.
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BOX 13.1
INTERVIEWING THE INVOLUNTARY CLIENT
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1. Be aware of your attitudes toward this group of interviewees.
2. Understand your relationship with and obligations to the referring agency.
3. Know the requirements and limits of the mandate imposed on the interviewee by the referring agency.
4. As in all interviews, but of particular importance here, manifest the basic attitudes and approaches that make for
establishing a positive relationship.
5. Warmth and respect communicate an empathetic understanding of the negative, oppositional, and resentful feelings
that such interviewees generally bring to the interview; roll with the resistance.
6. Make it clear to the client that you must act in accordance with the limitations and consequences of the mandate
imposed on the interviewer-interviewee relationship.
7. Seek to respect and extend the negotiable freedoms of choice available to the interviewee within the limitations of
the mandate.
8. Actively explore with interviewees what help they might be interested in accepting from the agency in working on
any problem of concern to them; make a deal.
9. Attempt throughout to act not as an adversary but as an ally seeking to formulate a service the agency can provide
and the interviewee is interested in accepting.
10. Communicate a sense of hope that although the initial contact is imposed, such relationships can effect positive
change.
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The child abuse interview does not usually originate with any action on the part of the child. It
originates from a variety of sources. Professionals, including doctors, teachers, and dentists, are
required by law to report any suspicion of child abuse. Family members and neighbors in contact with
the child might be aware of activities and behaviors that suggest child sexual abuse. A report is made to
child protective services, and a worker is assigned to investigate the allegations. Then an interview with
the child is scheduled.
The investigative interviews conducted by social workers in such cases are of prime importance
because, unlike other types of physical abuse, objectively discoverable evidence and witnesses seldom
exist. Sgroi, Porter, and Blick (1982, 48) reported, “In most child sexual abuse cases, there will be little
or no physical evidence and few if any physical findings to support the allegation.” Sexually
transmitted diseases and/or pregnancy resulting from sexual abuse are rare. Vaginal or anal injury as a
result of penile or digital penetration is somewhat more frequent but still absent in most cases.
Validation of a report of sexual abuse rests primarily on the information provided by the child victim
and obtained by the social worker in the interview.
If, as is often the case, the incident results in legal action against the alleged perpetrator, the defense
attorney is likely to be rigorous in reviewing the social worker’s report of the interview for flaws and
errors. Consequently, the interviewer has to conduct the interview in a manner that does not leave it
open to a negatively contested challenge.
In the not so distant past, social work child sexual abuse interviews have been subject to criticism.
Myers (1993, 26), who edited a book on such reports, notes that “poor interviewing, particularly
excessive use of leading questions, contributes significantly to skepticism about professional
competence” (Ceci and Bruck 1995; Wood and Garven 2000).
Having scheduled an interview with the child, the social worker may be accompanied by a police
officer because of the legal implications involved in such an interview. The family is notified about the
scheduled interview, and the parents’ presence may be permitted. Obviously, the parent permitted in
the interview should not be the suspected perpetrator. The worker must instruct the parent sitting in to
be unobtrusive. In 2011, failure to notify parents of an interview conducted with a child at school
resulted in a lawsuit, Camreta v. Greene, that involved Child Protective Services and was heard by the
U.S. Supreme Court.
Interview location should provide privacy, minimizing external influences and distractions. The
interview should be held in a neutral and psychologically comfortable place. Workers should avoid
interviewing suspected abuse victims at home, where the abuse might have occurred, because it is
associated with the perpetrator and the hurt.
The room should have available nonverbal sources of communication, including playthings such as
crayons, paints, and anatomically correct dolls. Anatomically correct dolls with a detachable penis,
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pubic hair, mouth, rectum, and vagina that can be opened to reenact insertion have enabled children to
demonstrate experiences they might find otherwise difficult to verbalize (Everson and Boat 1994;
Shamroy 1987). Such dolls communicate permission to discuss sexual matters and enable the social
worker to identify the words the child is using for genitalia.
These interviews may be audiotaped or, even better, videotaped. This may obviate the necessity of
subjecting the child to multiple interviews and makes available a record to confirm that the interview
was neutrally nondirective. Audiotapes or videotapes capture the details of the child’s account without
the distractions occasioned by note taking. The record they provide can reduce the number of times the
child must be subjected to anxiety-provoking interviews. The disadvantage of tapes is that they provide
evidence of any errors in directivity and suggestibility that the interviewer might have made. On the
other hand, a taped interview can be used to counter any subsequent attempt by the child to retract the
statements because of pressure by the perpetrator.
THE INTERVIEW
As always, the interview starts with some information as to how it is to be conducted and with efforts
to develop a relationship with the child. Because of the legal implications of the child sexual abuse
interview, the interviewer needs to be honest with the child about the limits of confidentiality. The
interviewer will have to share information obtained from the child with the court and the parents.
Workers should explicitly instruct children that they do not have to answer questions, they should
feel free to answer questions in any way they want, and they may disagree with or correct the
interviewer’s reflections or summaries of what they have said. The interview may start with a general
introduction:
I am _____. I am a social worker. I am here to help children with any problems, any difficulties they may have,
including any problems you may have.
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