How did Livy and Ovid's views about marriage and sex in Roman society differ? In what ways did they seem to share certain assumptions about Roman cultural institutions? When you have completed your response, please respond to another classmate's post. You can engage in friendly debate or add additional analysis and points to your classmate's post. Livy: The Rape of Lucretia Ovid: Amores 1.4 POST1 It seems that in both pieces, loyalty does mean a lot to the Roman society in the case that they slay the perpetrator in Livy's piece and this man in Ovid's piece touches on a creepy story line, but nonetheless he does not pursue even though he knows she is unattainable and the only way would be by force to lay with her. I feel that Livy's piece it shows that sex is a man's hastiness to pursue and it does not matter whether or not a woman wants to lay with you, marriage does not matter and sex will happen one way or another; however, it shows that no one agrees with that sentiment. In Ovid's we can see that's how probably very many feel with an unattainable woman, but there are boundaries and imagination is as far as that man can go which shows that there is a barrier of reluctance even if a sex urge is strong. The largest assumption that I can say is similar in these pieces about the Roman society is that men crave the urge to have sex and treat women terribly even if it is just about the imagination, it was like the man was giving the woman orders on what she can/cannot do with her husband. In the case of Livy's piece, that is just the worst type of thing imaginable to happen to a woman and the fact that he actually traveled ways away just to do that shows how insane it is. POST2 Livy and Ovid's perspectives on marriage and sex in Roman culture differed a lot where Ovid was more concerned with love and he disregarded marriage, but Livy was more concerned with the dignity and holy aspects of marriage. Ovid was head over heels in love with a woman who was married to another guy, but he didn't mind since he adored her. In the poem, he tells his secret lover how they may spend time together when her spouse is at a dinner table. Ovid advises her to make her husband as drunk as possible so that he can join her. He is also jealous inside by the prospect of her kissing her spouse. Ovid saw her marriage as nothing more than a contract with another guy. He would go to any extent to be with her, and the poem is filled with passionate feelings. Ovid Livy describes how Lucretia was raped by Sextus in The Rape of Lucretia. He knows she kills herself because she feels her body has been ruined and she is no longer pure for her husband. Adultery is a severe crime, according to both Livy and Ovid that's how they share the same roman cultural thinking, when Sextus threatens Lucretia in Livy's "The Rape of Lucretia," claiming that if he had to kill her, he told her that he would make it appear like she committed adultery and was executed as a result of it. This was enough to keep Lucretia silent, demonstrating the gravity of the offense. In Ovid's poetry, adultery is equally severe because he knows he won't be able to have any actual contact with his hidden lover because she is married.

1) Why are Ellen and Ronnie in a conflict?2) Has any action/inaction on Matthew's part contributed to the problem? If so, how?3) How should Matthew resolve the conflict?