Ojibwe Blood Quantum LLTC 2010
Step 3 Read and respond to other students' posts.
Have fun! Listen to each other's songs, look at pictures of purposed actors/actresses, and the art of those purposed artists. Say whether you agree with
the suggestions and why or why not. Shre your own as you decide.
Read the personal insights of your classmates and provide comments and questions.
These posts should be at least a full paragraph each.
Use your personal experience, if it's relevant, to support or debate other students' posts. If differences of opinion occur, debate the issues professionally
and provide examples to support opinions.
Please respond to at least two (2) classmates.
1. Initial posts are due by WEDNESDAY at 11:59 PM Pacific Time
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6. Interaction is the key to a productive and meaningful discussion between you, your peers, and your instructor, so your goal and approach should be
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P!nk Better Life (Official Audio)
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A song that pops into my head is Better Life by P!nk. It is nothing similar to this novel but everything similar to America today and what comes
across our minds more often then not. Through Love Medicine there are so many themes of family, culture and love. Although each character had a
desire for more, it seems different then our own desires. The ojibwe people, in my opinion, seem to desire respect from the world and recognition.
As for Americans it seems its always the goal to be filthy rich, and as in P!nk's song always looking toward a better life comparing it to the next
person constantly. Through her song I can almost feel the anxiety she has as she's singing about what the hell is going through her partners mind.
An anxiety that were not good enough anymore because America has become so much about the newest best thing out there, what If myself, the
spouse seems outdated as well? To me it seems the Ojibwe people do not have this same anxiety we struggle with. They struggle with keeping
their culture alive and fighting off the government. Such differences! Although, our struggle is so different I can relate to both. I find myself
sometimes with my mind wondering on what else I “need” in my life that will make me “happy”. Then when I come to my senses, I can sit and be so
grateful for everything in my life and be fulfilled with contentment. I believe that’s how they continue to try to live, on contentment and honor of
where they have been.
What I learned about myself through this novel is that I would love to learn more about other cultures and how they see life. It is mind opening to
step into some else’s shoes to really try to see life at a different angle. Too often we get stuck into our small day to day life. It is then that the mind
runs wild and feelings of stress build up because we only think about ourselves so often. If we could set our mind to constantly looking at others we
can feel smaller and appreciate what we do have in our own lives.
"What consumes your mind, controls your life" Google Meme lol
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Strong quote! I agree with that assessment.
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Hi Joni, Really like the song! And great comparison, many would never think of that song to use for this assignment so very creative.I would also
like to lean about other cultures as well and just see how others live, normally when I see how other cultures life especially in different ares of the
world I become more humble as well as thankful and more respectful.
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Hello Joni,
I really enjoyed your post! It seems like we sort of think alike. I really like that you recognized how the Ojibwe people are so humble and grateful
for the little they have. Call me old fashioned, but it is strange to me how the world works these days. I don't understand how people can get so
caught up in money and technology and become so selfish and greedy.
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I like your perspective on the objectives of the two peoples. I can really see what you mean when you compare the worries between the average
American and the Ojibwe people. I never really thought about the differences in life goals before. What do you believe is the more important of
the two (money or respect) and why? Does it have anything to do with a person's upbringing?
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I associate artist Georges Seurat with the novel Love Medicine because his paintings bare a resemblance to societal diversity in the same way that
the novel illustrates society and human characteristics. His most recognized portrait, Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte, features
multiple tiny dots that weave together to culminate a setting consisting of multiple people, each unique in their own way. The environment is sunny,
and most of the people stand or sit facing the river, which contains several boats and ships. I interpret this painting to resemble multiple people with
diverse characteristics, staring off into the water, pondering whatever comes into their minds. I can relate this interpretation to Love Medicine by
considering the various thoughts and beliefs of the novel’s own characters. Each character is the novel has a unique point of view on a plethora of
occurrences and other people. To be more specific, I could imagine George Seurat creating a painting showing Lipsha and King sitting and playing
poker while Lynette and King Jr. were in the living room watching television. Seurat could easily portray King’s posture in a way that shows how
tired he was from all the work he had put in that day. Also, the painting could showcase several beer bottles lying around alongside King Jr. and his
bowl of cereal. Each component could just be made of several small dots, all showcasing the tiny details that compose the complexities of Love
Medicine.
http://www.theartstory.org/artistseuratgeorgesartworks.htm#pnt_2
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As I read this book, I learned about my obligation to support my family and be with them at a time of need. After reading about each time a
character such as Albertine or Lipsha returned home or sought out to reunite with family, I realized the importance of making sure I stayed in touch
with my family as well. Towards the end of the novel, Lipsha described his relationship with King and his connection with Gerry. King assured
himself that “I knew there was some connection…strong enough to lead me onward…to get down to the bottom of my heritage” (Erdrich 308).
Lipsha’s determination to reunite with his father showed me how important it is to be in contact with my own family. Lipsha had nowhere to go and
no one to turn to except for his newly discovered father. For me, it’s the same concept. My family will always be there for me when I need them
most.
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I am glad this left you with a sense of care for your family. it really does center around loving and accepting others.
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Hi Nathan I am a big fan of George Stewart's work! Very talented artist, I wouldn't have seen a correlation to the book until you explained it.
Makes me keep an open mind. I also realized from reading the book that family is important and should be treasured.
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Great post, and the message well learned. family is about the most important matter to a person in his or her life, and as mentioned in your post
the connection will always be there within us that connect us to our roots if its not something to be told to us but it's a feelings that we can sense.
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Please place this on the peer review board. This is the literature board.
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The artist I would choose to illustrate the book Love Medicine is Wendy Red Star. Star is an incredibly skilled artist. She is a Native American Indian
herself and from the Apsáalooke (Crow) lineage. The reason why I believe she is best for this book is because her work is known to poke fun at
the white cultures misrepresentation of Native American history. Red Star Attempts to break Native Indian Stereotypes such as that they are all
"One with nature". In one of her works called "Four Seasons Series", Red Star takes a picture of herself dressed in Apsáalooke clothing against
four different cheap landscape backdrops (which she makes sure to leave with creases and wrinkles to really show how fake they are), The
picture is made up of a diorama that is so good you might see it in a history museum, then populated with artificial, storebought materials such as
fake plants, and cardboard cutouts/ balloon animals. Red Stars work is humorous and stands in opposition of native Indian stereotypes. This fits in
well with "Love Medicine" here is a link of some of her work.
http://www.wendyredstar.com/fourseasons#/0
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A quote from the book that describes me would have to be "Love medicine ain't what brings him back to you, Grandma. No, it's something else. He
loved you over time and distance, but he went off so quick he never got the chance to tell you how he loves you, how he doesn't blame you, how he
understands. It's true feeling, not no magic. No supermarket heart could have bring him back." (Edrich) This is a quote about love and I consider
myself a loving person regardless of what the situation is between me and someone else.
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What beautiful paintings! And, yes, that quote is an amazing summation of LM.
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Hello Franklin,
I completely agree with your selection and response. One big part of the novel showed Nector getting a portrait drawn by an artist who depicted
him as a stereotype. It’s interesting to see that the artist you chose did a parody on the concept. I can tell the art is purposefully fabricated to
depict stereotypes. The clothing, colors, and animals all seem to be stereotypical of not only Native Americans, but nature as well. To separate
such a falsehood from the love aspect of the novel, your quote certainly shows the true and hidden nature of Native Americans that stereotypes
so easily deny.
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Hi Franklin,
I think you hit the nail on the head with these pieces, they are beautiful! I love the color scheme throughout her work, especially the bright reds
and teals. The first picture with the blowup elk is hilarious, the way that the artist negates the stereotypes through humor is awesome.
I really like that quote as well, I particularly enjoy Lipsha's insights in the novel. As one of the youngest members of the family, he certainly seems
to be one of the wisest. To be able to maintain love regardless of circumstance can be very difficult, and I think this is a prominent issue explored
throughout the novel.
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Eric Hebert
Professor Cynthia Luna
English 124 8260
15 May 2018
Week 15 Book Club Board
If I were to make a movie out of this book, there would need to be actors that could correctly identify themselves with their role and be able
to replicate the emotional scenes. An actor that I would choose to play Gordie is Irfan Khan. If you’ve seen Jurassic World, then you know who Irfan
Khan is. I believe that he could fully take on the role of Gordie and correctly portray this diverse character in the novel Love Medicine. Additionally, I
believe that Jason Momoa would do a fantastic job playing as Gerry! If you’ve seen Game of Thrones, then you know that Jason can correctly
portray a badass character! His role in Game of Thrones as Khal Drogo was spot on and from this observation, others can correctly determine that
he would be able to replicate and even excel at playing Gerry. Finally, the last actor that I believe I would choose is Suraj Sharma. I believe that
Suraj Sharma would be able to correctly identify and portray Lipsha. His acting in his debuted film, Life of Pi was an amazing movie and he can
correctly interpret the emotional story of Lipsha.
I learned a lot about myself from reading this novel. I believe everyone goes through what Lipsha feels in the initial portion of the book when
they’re graduating high school. After I finished high school, I didn’t really know what I wanted to do. I struggled with my identity and critically thought
about who I wanted to be and what I wanted to do with my life. However, after working for two years and researching jobs that interested me, I
found a passion that I could pursue and I’m well on my way to reaching this goal. This revelation in my life is similar to Lipsha finally accepting
Gerry Nanapush as his father and who he truly was. "I felt expansion, as if the world was branching out in shoots and growing faster than the eye
could see" (Erdrich Pg. 332). The first step was being accepted to UCSD and that’s checked off now. Next on my list is obtaining a Ph. D in
Astrophysics.
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I love this quote "I felt expansion, as if the world was branching out in shoots and growing faster than the eye could see" (Erdrich 332). What an
amazing feeling and way to describe growth and selfawareness.
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Hello Eric,
You made great choices for which roles these actors should play. Jason Momoa has been known to take on courageous and deadly roles. I could
easily see him playing Gerry, since both of them display such tough personality traits. Also, Jason Momoa definitely chooses roles where his
character does controversial (and even illegal) things that question whether or not the viewer can identify with him. I find it the same way with
Gerry, since a lot of his actions are considered rudimentary. I also felt similar to how Lipsha felt with regards to finding out my identity. When I was
younger, I definitely struggled to accept who I was. Having grown older and more mature, I feel content with my personality.
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Hi Eric,
This is great choices. Great job! I really did not know any of them. I thank you for allowing to learn new Characters.
Best of luck in your journey. I hope that only good things come up into your life.
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Wow Eric! I am impressed.
The way You matched the actors up with the book was so insightful and spot on. My personal favorite was the Irfan Khan resemblance. Your
imagination is explosive and I really enjoyed reading this. Amazing/Insightful quote by the way.
Jonathan
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Makayla Tam
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Professor Luna
15 May 2018
Week 15 Book Club
This song reminds me of songs from Pocahontas and songs from Black Panther. I love the Native American culture and I love its uniqueness. I love
how connected and appreciative they are with earth, nature, and animals. This song reminds me of “Steady as The Beating Drum” and “Wakanda.”
This song reminded me of those songs because they all fall under the genre of tribal and have similar instruments, pitches, and rhythms. The
people from these songs are all primitive in their thinking in a good way in that they are not greedy and obsessed with technology like American
culture.
Pocahontas Steady As The Beating Drum
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v7m1XSrj6
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As I read “Love Medicine” by Louise Erdrich, I learned that I really admire Native American culture and tradition and want to learn more about it. I
also learned that I strongly dislike American History in that it is very onesided and they only teach Americans selective things that make the U.S.
look heroic, courageous, and powerful. History classes sugar coat things like the Trail of Tears and Thanksgiving and don't teach the true brutality
of the founding of the U.S. “The Chippewas had started off way on the other side of the five great lakes. How we were shoved out on this lonesome
knob of a prairie my grandmother used to tell” (Erdrich, 278).
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Yes, I can see that song working for this novel. Great point!
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I find it interesting how you touched on the instruments being influential in the song. I agree with you and hadn't really considered the instrument
differences in the music to play such a big role. After looking at a few covers of the same song online with different instruments, I agree that it
helps set the mood for the culture being examined. Do you believe that if the songs were played with nontraditional modern instruments it would
have the same impact?
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Walker Williams
Professor Luna
English 124 Online
5 May 2018
Book Club Board
After listening to a few songs that I knew reminded me of this novel, I picked “Motion Picture Soundtrack” by Radiohead. The reason I picked
this song is that the story behind it almost reads like a letter from George to his late wife June. The opening lines are eerie in this context. The song
goes, “Red wine and sleeping pills help me get back to your arms”. This can be used to describe George at his lowest point after June’s death.
There are also lyrics that I believe can relate to how the family felt about her life before her death, stating, “I think you’re crazy, maybe I think you’re
crazy, maybe”. This could be used to illustrate how they looked down on her way of life is so wild and unconventional. The fact that this song
sounds like the kind of song you would hear at a funeral, perfectly captures the tone of death and the feeling it gives to those around you. The song
ends on what I think could be a line from George again. The song goes, “I will see you in the next life”. When I sat down to listen to this song, I did
not think it would have as much relevance as I see it has now.
Link to the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ju8xO_Zvfo&index=7&list=PL0iZnUyS5tnQfHOMw5pR4ODpsY09cKVjJ
Although when I read this novel I did not feel as though I learned about myself, I feel as though the novel reinforced the importance of family in
my eyes. All my life I had gone to family events, birthday parties, funerals, and everything in between, but I feel as though after reading about this
incredibly interesting family, I can respect those in my family for feeling so strongly about one another. Near the end of the novel, in conversation,
Lipsha gets told, “You’re a Nanapush man”(Erdrich 332). The context behind this was about a heart irregularity, but I felt as if it was something more
to Lipsha, almost as a final confirmation that even though his past was odd with his family, he is still a part of the family. I personally relate to this
because I could never really connect with most in my family because we have greatly different interests. But after reading this novel, I’ve realized
that it doesn't really matter. A family is a family, no matter what.
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Great song, Walker! I can see the correlations.
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Throughout the entire novel, I found myself most fascinated by the character Lipsha Morrissey. I always pictured him looking very similar to actor
Forrest Goodluck, a 19 year old actor better known for his role as Hawk in The Revenant. Link
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to me because he is an actual Native American and not just someone who plays one, which we see in Hollywood quite often. His mother is a mix of
Hidatsa, Navajo, Tsimshian, and Mandan decent, and his father is entirely Navajo. In my mind, Lipsha was always a young, fairly thin, and soft
spoken man with an air of mystery about him. He also had the typical attitude of teenage angst from never quite fitting in or knowing where he
belonged. Goodluck seems very similar to him, especially in this role, as he is desperately trying to please his father in the same way that Lipsha is
always trying to please Marie. Surprisingly, both Lipsha and Goodluck are the exact same age, which is confirmed by Lulu when she is telling
Lipsha about his real father. Lulu says, “You’re nineteenyearsold now? That makes it twenty years ago this happened” (Erdrich 311). This was just
a small detail that I discovered when searching for information on Goodluck, but I thought it was really cool coincidence.
I think that my fascination with Lipsha’s character stems from how much I relate to him as a person. The way he describes and views the world is
so lovely, and his viewpoints in particular were always my favorite. What this book has taught me about myself really stems from how much I relate
to Lipsha, as his insights have always resonated with me the most. The most prominent of these would be his views on the importance of having
faith. He says, “I thought to myself that faith could be called belief against the odds and whether or not there’s any proof…It’s belief even when the
gods don’t deliver…Faith might be stupid, but it gets us through” (Erdrich 250). What I take from this statement is that even if something doesn’t
work out, having faith in the worst situations is crucial to survival, which is something that I have struggled to do. This ideology is something that
has stuck with me, and I hope I can try to have more faith in the face of adversity.
Works Cited:
Erdrich, Louise. Love Medicine. Harper Perennial, 2009.
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Great take away! Faith in hard times and even in life in general can help you get through.
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Anas Abdulameer
Cynthia Luna
English 124
May 15th, 18
Love Medicine
Response to Song
The song in the video is of traditional Native American context and depicts the culture of its people. The song is cheerful, fun and suitable for
dancing as it has a fun rhythm from the drum beats. The chanting also makes the song perfect for round grass dancing which is common among
the Native Americans. The chanting by the women makes the song richer in tradition and identifiable with the Native American people. The duet
between the men and the women also adds character to the song and make it livelier.
Characters for “Love Medicine” Movie
If I was to make a movie out the book, “Love Medicine”, I would choose Sofia Vergara for the role of June Kashpaw as she would be best
suitable in terms of age and character. Vergara often takes up fun, carefree and adventureloving roles in most of the movies she acts. She is also
very beautiful, playful and approximately the same age as June was before she died. From her performance in her past roles, Vergara would be
able to depict June’s life perfectly showing her adventurous side, carefree as well as the troubled part of her. For King’s character, I would cast
Scott Adkins as he is known to act in violent films. He is also young and strong and would, therefore, be a good illustration of King. This is because
King is shown to be violent, troubled, tortured and a drunkard. Scott Adkins has severally acted in such roles exceedingly well and would, therefore,
be perfect. For Nector’s role, I would cast Robert De Niro whose physical appearance would depict that of Nector as they are both elderly. Nector is
elderly, ill and also a dutiful family man. In his youth, he was also very handsome and quite intelligent. De Niro would be great at acting this role as
he has taken up similar roles in the past films and done a good job.
SelfRealization from “Love Medicine”
Reading “Love medicine” has helped learn that I am dutiful towards family and inclined towards being a responsible and loving parent. This
is because I felt more attached and connected characterwise to characters such as Marie, Nector, and Lipsha due to their personalities. All of them
are caring and committed to their family members and for this reason, I find them incomparable in character. For instance, Lipsha, “told myself love
medicine was simple” and commits himself to saving his grandparent’s marriage showing how much he loves them (Erdrich 68). I also identify them
as the best people in the book.
Works Cited
Erdrich, Louise. Love Medicine. New York: Harper Perennial, 2009. Print.
Mrevan1997. “Wayne Silas Jr. Love Medicine.” YouTube, 25 May 2012, youtu.be/_XlC3CVSnTg.
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Great suggestions! So you see June as more of an extrovert and voluminous woman? Hmm. . .
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Q1)
What song/s does this book make you think of? Why? Provide a link to the song for us to hear.
The book Love Medicine consists of themes that touch about family life. Cultural and religious heritage is valued. First, there is a strange
relationship between mother and child. Albertine and Zelda have a difficult relationship, but the two of them try to mend fences. June before she
died, had left two children, one who has become alcoholic, King, and another who does not know who his mother is, Lipsha. This relationship
between mother and child makes me think of Kelly Pickler’s song I Wonder. The song is about a child who wonders where the mother is and is
saddened by the fact that she has missed all the things that mothers and daughters do.
Link
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Another theme that the story brings out is the importance of family. The death of June brings all family members together. As much as June was not
someone to be proud of, her family embraced her and gave her a decent burial. The family puts aside all your mistakes and accepts you for who
you are. June had left her family, divorced her husband, and was going out with random men, but still, her family did not abandon her. They were
sad that she was dead. This theme makes me think of the late Whitney Houston’s song; Family Comes First.
Link
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The book, Love Medicine entails valuable lessons. It teaches about the importance of love in healing. It also illustrates the benefits of
perseverance. I learned a fundamental lesson that one needs to be longsuffering and patient. King is abusive to his wife, Lynette. He shouts at her
and gets violent with her. When Albertine and Lipsha find them fighting, they separate them, but sooner than expected, they reunite and are happy
with each other. "…King and Lynette head outside and have sex in the car". Lynette sticks with her husband, and she stays mainly for her son. She
has seen how damaged King has become because of being abandoned by his mother, so she sticks around for her baby.
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Hello Hasan,
Great comparisons! These are great songs and they definitely apply directly to the book and the characters. I agree that healing is a huge theme
in the book. I didn't really realize this until the end of the book. Throughout the majority of it I was kind of lost and didn't really enjoy the book until
people began finding themselves and learning more about themselves. Several heartfelt moments happened that made it clear to me that
general themes are love, healing, and family and your song comparisons fit perfectly in with these themes.
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Great comparison! That video could work very well. I love all the insight this board brings.
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On the off chance that I was making a film for Love Medicine I will pick Shailene Woodley. Shailene is an astonishing performing artist, she
has been in such a large number of films. My 3 most loved motion pictures are "The Fault in Our Stars", which this film was tragic. I cried such a
significant number of times I can watch the motion picture again and again. Insurgent and Divergent are activity motion pictures which she
separated them. Shailene is beautiful, keen, she is involved in organizations. I admire this women so much, I can’t wait for more movies to come
out and watch her be a mom.
For the music I choose is “
All I Want Kodaline”
(https://youtu.be/n6BwAWiHcSg)
(https://youtu.be/n6BwAWiHcSg)
, This song is beautiful, its just perfect and this song will make you tear up.
My favorite artist for this book will be Freda Kahlo. She was a Mexican artist who painted numerous pictures. Kahlo spent most of the year in
Hospital ABC in Mexico City, where she underwent a new bone graft surgery on her spine, she passed away July 13, 1954. Her art work still
remains alive in Mexico and she is not forgotten. Her work of art motivated by the nature and relics of Mexico. Her compositions frequently had
solid selfportraying components and blended authenticity with dream.
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1. To illustrate Love Medicine, I would select L. Frank Manriquez, a TongvaAcjachemen artist, and cartoonist. She goes by the nom d’arte of L.
Frank. I saw her works several years ago on a California Gold episode with Huell Howser. Mostly I was impressed by the painting and some of the
pictures that captured the real culture of the IP in action. L. Frank advocates for Indigenous Peoples rights and culture so I would expect that he
would be able to illustrate Love Medicine with a higher degree of accuracy than a EuroAmerican would. Furthermore L. Frank is a published author
of First Families: A Photographic History of California Indians. Based on the aforementioned I would consider L. Frank to be an excellent candidate
to illustrate Louise Erdrich’s novel Love Medicine. Here is a link to the artist's website and a couple of images that I feel express the intensity of the
artist. Link
(http://www.crowsonthenose.com/aboutlfrank.html)
This is called this is your luck, but the imagery speaks to me of the symbols of the IP baskets, jewelry, pottery, and pipes all over the lands.
This is called the walk, and I was taken back by the image of the reservation and the typical home that I saw growing up in Northern Nevada.
2. Being that I am not your typical student, this question does not have the same impact that it would to many others. I can say with complete
clarity that the reading of this book did not cause me to selfreflect or to have an epiphany of insight. While Many may find the story to be new and
full of ideas and exposure to a way of life that is hidden from most students that are in urban schools. Only in schools near reservations or schools
that also serve the reservation students does the visual impact, and at times the interactions cause a crossover of cultures.
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Edward,
I believe the picture title "The Walk" would be a great photo to use of the cover of the film if Love Medicine was made into a independent film. I
think it expresses a lot of what we see in the novel. You have cars in the background which is representative of modern civilization, but you also
have the the barren landscape and corral, symbolizing ways of the old. Also, the girl featured in the picture has an attire of Levis (modernish)
and a shawl (traditional). This shows a duality of cultures, a theme common to that many characters in Love Medicine. Also, the piece is features
a woman and is title "The Walk". Ironically, June went "walking" home to the reservation the night she died. Seems like a fitting cover for an
independent film.
I don't believe everything you read, see, or experience in life has to cause some sort of selfrefection. But I do feel that the crossover of cultures
and themes contained within Love Medicine and not unique only to the Ojibwe people. Love, strife, oppression, and soul searching are timeless
themes that stretch across all cultures. I myself am not the type to attribute and selfreflection I may have to the vast majority of films and book I
read. But a lot of times those films or book will make me think, for even a moment, about their perspective of those individuals and what may
have been going through their mind. Did anything about Love Medicine make you think or ponder about what was transpiring in the novel?
Great response!
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Great point, David. I also feel that anything we read or evaluate can impact us greatly if we allow it to. That impact can happen in many ways
and cause different types of reactions, but if are open to looking at the world through a new lens, we can see so much more.
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David,
Clearly, the novel made me think about the years spent in Nevada and the interactions with the IP and the reservation. I would see the land of
the reservation monthly so it was a common experience after a time. That a novel many years later would remind me of that is not a shock but
also not unpleasant. I can say some of the characters from the novel was easily relatable to individuals I knew from the reservation.
Edward
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*grabs chocolate milk* Let’s finish off this last Book Club Meeting.
I actually think of a few songs when I finished reading this book. One of the songs is actually an instrumental song put to an animation called
“Gravity” (
2D Animated Short Film "GRAVITY" BEAUTIFUL Love Story. Family Animation by Ailin Liu
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=2m1Ek6Pjw7s)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m1Ek6Pjw7s)
). The reason I thought about this song is not only because of the song itself, it is also the animation that goes with it. To be short, the song is about
something being there and you can not escape from it; which it like the characters in the story. They know what has happened in the past, they can
not escape it, but in the end, they end up accepting what has happened and they move on with the rest of their lives. Another song I thought about
when reading this book was the song “15years obsession of an adhesive man” by Hatsune Miku (
Hatsune Miku "15years obsession of an adhesive man" English subbed
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K916vMPu6I)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K916vMPu6I)
). First off, yes I know it is a Japanese song, but the story does feel like it is obsessing over a woman who died a very long time ago and everyone
does not stop talking, or thinking about her; I am of course talking about June. At the very end of the song as well as the book, all the characters
finally learn to let go of the past/deceased and let them rest in peace even after all the memories and the struggles they had to go through living
without her.
I am not sure if this completely counts as something I learned about myself, but I know that it is something I need to do to fix myself. I realize that I
should spend more time with my family. To be more precise, I feel like I should spend more of my time with the people in my life than with my
computer and laptop on social media sites. The reason is, I do not want to be like King and not having the time I could have spent with my mother
by doing other things. Having to do my best to keep the memories of my mom alive would be painful if I had to fight for it like King did here:
“If Gerry won the car, I knew I’d stay there and keep King strict company until my father managed to cross the border into Canada. “Let’s play for
the car,” Gerry agreed. “June’s car.” But King didn’t want to play for the car. “It’s mine,” he said. “No, it’s really June’s.” explained Gerry. “Any one of
us could be keeping it for June.” “You don’t get it,” said King.” (Erdrich, 323)
I know now that I should spend more time with the people around me; here and now, then with people online who I barely know at all.
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I love this! These feelings transcend cultures, so it makes sense that it's from another country.
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Jessica Mejia
Week 15 Book Club Board
Love Medicine
If I was making a movie of the book Love Medicine, I will choose Irene Bedard to play the role of June Kashpaw because Irene is not only
a professional actress, but also, she is Native American. She has Inupiat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inupiat) , Yupik
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yupik_peoples) , Inuit
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit) , Cree
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cree) and Métis
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis) ancestry, and she has played many Native American characters in different films. Because of her
physical features, she would be perfect for the role of June. A song that came up to my mind after reading this book is Love, Love, Love by Noa.
This song talks in very simply words, the importance of love, and how it is always present in our world no matter the circumstances, no matter the
people, we should believe on the power that love has. In some of the stories inside the novel, we were able to see how love takes an important
role, and how that love connects the characters. An artist I will choose to illustrate the book will be Frank Buffalo Hyde. He has Native American
heritage and is wellknown for her vibrant, richly saturated, satirical graphic realist paintings. Trough his work, he seeks to dismantle stereotypes of
Native American culture. Because he understands and is part of the Native American culture, he will be perfect to illustrate this book.
Irene's picture: https://www.google.com.mx/search?
q=irene+bedard&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCrvbD14vbAhUJH6wKHcWYALgQiR4ItAE&biw=1396&bih=690#imgrc
(https://www.google.com.mx/search?
q=irene+bedard&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCrvbD14vbAhUJH6wKHcWYALgQiR4ItAE&biw=1396&bih=690#imgrc=_)
Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N_LIllfIHU
Artist: http://frankbuffalohyde.com/section/112573PAINTING.html
I am not a person who reads a lot, but after reading this novel I discover that I enjoyed reading these kinds of books with stories and
descriptive. Even though this novel was not easy to read, I was able to understand perfectly the character’s story. Also, the story about Marie
Lazarre reminds me that I should not feel ashamed of my roots as she does. “Because I don’t have that much Indian blood” (Erdrich 43). I have
known people that were born in the U.S. but their parents or grandparents are Mexican, and they feel embarrassed to say where they came from or
sometimes to speak their language. This portion of the book taught me that my ancestors deserve to be honored and respected.
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Great choice for June! I love it.
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This question is difficult to answer as I can’t name any artist, songwriter, or actor by name that I would use for any of these roles. However, I do
think a 1980’s styled movie poster featuring all the characters spanning out from the center, where June would be because I feel the story revolves
around her and her life and the people in it. This style is iconic of the 1980’s, which is fitting for Love Medicine because a vast portion of this novel
is set in this period.
(Star Wars: Rogue One)
(Star Wars Episode 1)
However, I think another cool poster would be to show the famous painted picture of Nector Kashpaw on the front of the poster. This is mentioned
multiple times in the novel and could be a nice addition to a poster. This may come across as supporting the “Ideal Indian” that is displayed in many
movies though. Perhaps it could be ironic? I am unsure, but I do think that is an image that all the readers have Individually construed in their own
minds. This is something like what I pictured when they spoke of what that painting of Nector looked like.
(Berry)
(Heppler)
I stumbled across this picture though. If the the woman was fading from a traditional attire to a more modern one, that could represent the forced
assimilation that is a theme within the novel. This is a very rough idea, but I think it holds more meaning.
(Indian Cree Indian Prophecy Poster)
I would probably go with the 80’s style though, because it’s just really cool to look at!
I never believed that Lipsha would ever be a large part of this novel’s plot, but the passage that has stood out most for me in Love Medicine is when
Lipsha says,
I tell you, there was good in what she did for me, I know now. The son that she acknowledged suffered more than Lipsha Morrissey did. The
thought of June grabbed my heart so, but I was lucky she turned me over to Grandma Kashpaw. (Erdrich 333)
To me, this passage represents that events and actions against you may transpire in your life. While you may not wish for them to happen,
sometimes they are for the better. All you can really do in these situations is to embrace the pain and strive to overcome such events. Later on, you
may be able to see the silver lining in you strife, just as Lipsha now sees how lucky he was to not have his mother care for him. Even though he
suffered greatly, Lipsha made his way through life and strove to find his selfidentity, and never lost perspective that he is an Ojibwe tribesman.
Personally, I think I need to take this to heart more often and realize that bad things will happen, but it is not the end of the world, and that some of
the things I consider “bad” might be beneficial for me in the future. As they say, the closing of one door is the opening of another.
Works Cited
Berry, Chris. “Ken Maynard Western Movie Star and Circus Headliner.” Collectors Weekly, Auctions Online USA Ltd, 2010,
www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/72130kenmaynardwesternmoviestarandcir.
Erdrich, Louise. Love Medicine. Revised ed., Harper Perennial, 2009.
Heppler, Jason A. “‘SelfSustaining and a Good Citizen’: William F. Cody and the Progressive Wild West.” Http://Www.codystudies.org, University of
NebraskaLincoln, www.codystudies.org/showindians/images/irontail1_preview.jpg.
“INDIAN CREE INDIAN PROPHECY Poster.” Movieposter.com, eu.movieposter.com/poster/MPW44883/Indian_Cree_Indian_Prophecy.html.
“Star Wars Episode 1 I The Phantom Menace Drew Struzan Movie Poster 22x34.”Poster Foundry, Poster Foundry, posterfoundry.com/starwars
episode1ithephantommenacemovieposter/.
“Star Wars: Rogue One Movie Poster / Print (Regular Style) (Size: 27’ x 40’) (By POSTER STOP ONLINE).” Amazon, Amazon,
www.amazon.com/StarWarsPosterRegularPOSTER/dp/B071RCHN6J.
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David,
I agree Lipsha stood out at the end as a central character and depending on which ending chapter you had in your book it might change the
dynamic of how you see that character. Lipsha is one I would like to meet and sit down and have a conversation with.
As to your idea, that bad things will happen, well yes they will, and it is up to the individual to find that open door or the way to open a new door. I
can personally tell you that in life it is how we handle that adversity that determines our destiny.
Edward
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Yes, I would as well. It would be so interesting to speak with Lipsha. What would you ask him?
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The one question I would ask is "why knowing his true parentage did he attempt to avoid the confirmation of that fact for so long?" Did not
having proof of this make it less of a burden?
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An artist I would choose to illustrate this book would be Faith Ringgold. Ringgold's unique style, it looks like quilts but is actually acrylic on
unstretched canvas, evokes a certain folksy feeling in her pieces that would fit nicely into the reservation setting. She is known to have centered her
works on community and family bonds and the scenes she creates echo the importance of not just the people in it, but the environment in which
they are in. Visually, Ringgold's art just fits the idea of how I feel this book could be conveyed. The art is bright and vibrant, uplifting, and harkens
back to a place where time slows down and you live in the moment just like how descriptive the book can be. That's not to say that all her work is
cheery just as our book has it's darker moments, the darker themes of her work surround racism and civil rights so those pictures I feel don't count.
This is also from the exposure I have had from my middle school art classes so the memories I have of it are PG. It's really hard actually to try to
explain the feeling. I just know that if there were pictures interspersed through the text like those young adult books that still kind of sort of had
picture in them I would not feel like they would be out of place.
http://philamuseum.tumblr.com/post/33158490204/happybirthdaytofaithringgoldbornonthisday
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What I learned about myself rading this book is that family will always be therefor better or worse. During this semester I got into a couple
arguments that resulted in a few periods of silence amongst my family and the fact that in the book, specifically King's apartment in the end,
everyone King has been trying to avoid eventually sit down at the table with him, "The famous Chippewa...sat down at the dirtiest kitchen table in
Minnesota with his own son". I am in no way comparing myself to King, I just like the fact that family somehow always find a way back into your life.
Also everything is good now in my situation, in case you were wondering.
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Great points about family. I also love that quote home is home.
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Hello Odin,
You chose a great artist to represent the novel. Art that centers on the concept of family and community definitely shares the same theme of the
novel. The book is composed of several moments, each unique in its own way. I believe the same goes for the artwork. Each character and
component of the setting has some relevance. Every detail contributes to the essence of the artwork, in the same way that each story and point
of view in Love Medicine contributes to the themes of the novel. The darker context surrounding the artwork also bares resemblance to the
darker moments of the novel.
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This book is extremely effectionate, sad, funny, happy, angry, etc. just about every emotion you can think of this book has. Love Medicine has made
me feel romance, yet the entire novel is all about historical Indian culture and family. Family is embedded within this novel, if I had to say this novel
reminded me of a song I would chose the song "Family Portrait" by Pink. If you just click the words family portrait into YouTube you will be able to
listen to the song. The reason I chose this song is because it's about a family being ripped apart for various reasons, yet the singer is begging to be
a family again like they were in the family portrait. It just reminds me of a lot of the things the families go through in this novel and the continuous
strains they go through.
I learned a lot about myself through this entire semester of reading Love Medicine. I learned that I am a romantic. I also learned that family means
so much to me. Reading this book has given me thick skin because you see how much the characters endure and no matter what "Life Goes On"
and you need to constantly remind yourself that there's always a rainbow after a storm.
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Great song for this novel!
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The song that reminds me of the book is “Goodbye”, by Apparat. It reminds me of the book because it is a sad song that represents pain. I first
heard this song, as the theme song for Dark on Netflix. The show also had characters feel emotional pain. In Louise Erdrich’s, Love medicine,
there’s multiple characters that are feeling pain, because of a death. Particularly June’s death had an impact on multiple characters at some point in
their life. For example, Gordie was alcoholic because of Junes death. King June’s son became very upset of from her death, and would cry and
argue over June car “It’s her car. You’re June’s boy, King. Don’t cry, (Eli, 35). The song represents pain, but also needed the comfort of someone.
For example, “lay down next to me, don’t listen when I scream, bury your doubts and fall asleep, Find out…. I was just a bad dream” (Apparat). I
think those lines represent a lot of characters. They are hurt, but they need comfort, but not too much comfort because they know they need to be
strong. Even though it is a short song, I think the little lyrics that it has, represents the novel.
What I learned about myself from this book, is that I can relate to King. I understand why he got so upset about the car, and how much it
means to him. The car represented June, he just wanted something that reminds him of June. I can relate, because me, and my brother would
argue over my dad’s stuff. It wasn’t because it was nice stuff, it was because it represented my dad. Also, that if I don’t talk about it I will get upset
like King did over the car, and cry about it. He just misses June, and I miss my dad. “it’s awful to be dead. Oh, my God, she’s so cold”, (King,35).
Work cited
Louise Erdrich. Love Medicine. 2009
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Yes, I agree. I have many things that I save that remind me of my aunt that passed last year. I don't talk about them, but I know what they
represent.
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Elizabeth Cupeles
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Prof. Cynthia Luna
15 May 2018
Book Club Discussion
On the off chance that I was making a film for Love Medicine I will pick Shailene Woodley. Shailene is an astonishing performing artist, she has
been in such many films. My 3 most loved motion pictures are "The Fault in Our Stars", which this film was tragic. I cried such a significant number
of times I can watch the motion picture again and again. Insurgent and Divergent are activity motion pictures which she separated them. Shailene is
beautiful, keen, she is involved in organizations. I admire this woman so much, I can’t wait for more movies to come out and watch her be a mom.
For the music I choose is “
All I Want Kodaline” (Links to an external site.)
(https://youtu.be/n6BwAWiHcSg)
(https://youtu.be/n6BwAWiHcSg)
, This song is beautiful, its just perfect and this song will make you tear up.
My favorite artist for this book will be Freda Kahlo. She was a Mexican artist who painted numerous pictures. Kahlo spent most of the year in
Hospital ABC in Mexico City, where she underwent a new bone graft surgery on her spine, she passed away July 13, 1954. Her art work still
remains alive in Mexico and she is not forgotten. Her work of art motivated by the nature and relics of Mexico. Her compositions frequently had
solid selfportraying components and blended authenticity with dream.
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Finishing this novel was a whirlwind of emotions. Revelations periodically came to the surface, sending the readers into a tailspin. I found that
music really came to mind for me when I read this novel. I found that each character was affected by other characters is deep and powerful way.
One song that that I though would flow with the whole novel was “Run Boy Run” by Woodkid from his The Golden Age album. It starts off with these
very, almost ominous bells that ring slowly and I think that reminded me a bit of June’s opening portion of the book. It was the opening to the our
insight to this complex family. It gave me this uneasy feeling because it left me questions and I think that’s what the few seconds of the song do.
Then the song picks up just like the novel picks up. We are seeing this story because of Junes passing. This intense drumming starts and Woodkid
sings “Run boy run, this world is not meant for you, run boy run, they're trying to catch you.” I think what made me think of this song is because
each character has pain, ether there own or even generational pain that they are suffering with. Some handle it well while some succumb to it. The
song is intense drumming sets followed by these almost angelic periods and then back to drumming. It kind of reflects a wave and I think it was
kind of similar to the flow of the novel. There would be these stretches of drama and violence followed by stories from the characters past. I think
that if this novel was made into a feature film, this song would be playing.
When reading this novel, the characters learned so much like Lipsha Morrissey learning who his birth parents and I feel like for me it was also
a learning experience. I was learning about how Erdrich was able to use incredibly detailed language while still making it relatable and
understandable while also learning about the pain of the native people. The additional material, such as the video of the panel of native woman
analyzing the novel was for me really influential. The visualization of generational pain through rocks completely made sense. I also learned the
power of family and native pride. With all of the information that I learned from this novel and supplemental material I felt like Marie when she says
to Lulu “this is real nice. I never learned how to do this kind of thing”(Erdrich 293). Overall, I really enjoyed the style of Erdrich’s writing and the
complex story that she painted for the readers. I look forward to reading more from her.
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Erdrich, Louise. Love Medicine. Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2013.
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What an amazing song! I love the drum line in it.
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Rebecca Clark
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16 May 2018
Having completed the sordid, emotional, book Love Medicine by Louise Erdrich, many songs come to mind to relate to this book and its
story. One song that came on a radio station while I was working on this was called “Keep Your Head Up” by singer and songwriter Ben Howard.
This song reminded me of Love Medicine particularly because I have been so fascinated by June Kashpaw throughout the story. The song “Keep
Your Head Up” reminds me of June for her resilient character and her strength in following her own heart. Never once in the story did she falter
trying to decide what to do next; it was always her heart leading the way. This song’s chorus relates just that “keep your head up, keep your heart
strong”.
“Keep Your Head Up”Ben Howard :
Ben Howard Keep Your Head Up
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I think that as I read Love Story I learned that I have a greater appreciation for being an individual. That is to say, much like Lulu Nanapush,
I go my own way no matter what others say. I think that as I was reading this story, the quote that seemed to reach out to me the most was at the
beginning of the chapter “The Good Tears” (Erdrich 272). Lulu’s plot line has been well developed by this point and she has painted her narrative as
a wildflower type of character. The quote that resonated with me was “No one understood my wild and secret ways…I was in love with the whole
world and all that lived in its rainy arms” (Erdrich 272). I like this particular quote because it demonstrates that Lulu isn’t seeking anyone’s approval,
in fact she could take or leave their opinions of her as long as she was going her own way.
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10:36am
Thank you for sharing this beautiful song.
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Maryan Jameel
Professor Cynthia Luna
English 24
16 May 2018
Book Discussion
If I was ever to make a movie my characters would be people from the actual culture who have a talent to act. If I was to make a movie and would
have to choose this prayer song.
. I have really loved this song as it relates to the book we read Love Medicine very well. The song starts very slow which is like our beginning and
how June was having fun then it goes to louder with higher action and that is because June dies and for a good minute the song remains very loud
and engaging and that is how I felt toward to the book then it slows down a little then it goes back to actions such as June's on finding out about his
really mom. Then the song goes to quiet which is like the Resurrection where everyone is at peace.
The artist that I would pick is probably an Objiewe artist. This culture is very unique and different theerfore not a lot can inmate it and do it as well
as them
This book has taught me a lot about family and its connections. I really do appreciate and love my family after I have read this book. Love Medicine
has made me realize that no matter how far you can become from your family you are still with them. School, work and personal conflicts can get
overwhelming but family is everything and that what matters. Family has always got your back. Although some times they might hide things away
from us but it is toward our best interest. They are trying to protect us from other harms. Yes, you do not pick your family but you pick your friends. I
think that everything happens for a reason and God has planned everything for you for a certain reason and certain lesson. Friends might not last
very long as conflicts happens but family lasts forever.
Work cited
Louise Erdrich. Love Medicine. 2009
Ojibwe Prayer Song
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10:37am
Thank you for sharing this prayer song. It is amazing!
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Carolina Evans
English 124
If I were to make this book into a movie the actress I would choose to play Marie Kashpaw would likely be Meryl Streep. In the majority of her
movies she plays a strong female lead who often has to overcome some type of challenge or adversity. In this novel Marie faces the challenge of
raising a large family with a drunken and straying husband, overcoming negative stereotypes the community has of her and her family, and also
taking in and caring for children that are not her as though the were her own. Meryl Streep is an amazing actress that I think would be able to take
the challenge of navigating a complex character like Marie and portray her well. The audience sees Marie Kashpaw undergo many changes and
growth as the novel progresses, and Meryl Streep would be an excellent choice to portray those changes.
I think that a good portrayal of Lulu Lamartine would be done from Helena Bonham Carter. She too is an accomplished actress. Helena Bonham
Carter is known for playing roles of more whimsical women with strong personalities. She would be a good choice at portraying Lulu Lamartine
because of Lulu’s free spirited attitude and “does not care what others think about her” outlook on life.
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What I learned about myself from reading this book was not necessarily a meaningful message from the story line, but it allowed me to rediscover
my love of reading. When I was younger I would always have a book in hand that I could not put down, and enjoying the characters and their
stories in this book reminded me of this forgotten hobby. One quote that significantly stood out to me was, “The snow fell deeper that year than it
had in forty years, but June walked over it like water and came home” (Erdrich 7). This quote stood out to me because it was the last time the
audience “sees” June alive in present time, and we are also unsure what this chapter will lead the rest of the novel to be.
Works Cited
Erdrich, Louise. Love Medicine. New York: HarperPerennial, 1993, Print.
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10:38am
Wonderful! Reading can take us away we are able to see out beyond our own circumstances. I am happy to hear that.
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If I make a movie, I will chose Lipsha as a main character
Lipsha had tragedy life; he didn’t know who is his real father until the end of the novel and that impact on his life.
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This is “Broken Family Song” its show how much the family Lipsha has been broken.
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10:39am
Please write a complete response.
Answer one of the following three questions in 200 words:
If you were making a movie of this book, who would you cas as what chracter? Why? Provide a link to a picture of the actor/actress, so we
can all see.
What song/s does this book make you think of? Why? Provide a link to the song for us to hear.
What artist would you choose to illustrate this book? Why? Provide a link to some of that artist's work, so we can see.
2. Answer the following question in 100 words:
What did you learn about yourself as you read this book? Why? And provide a quote to support this insight about yourself.
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12:03am
If I were to make a movie of this book, there are a couple of actors that I would cast for Love Medicine. First of all, I would cast Irene Bedard as
June Morrissey. To be exact, since the actress is in her late age now, I would cast someone that looks like her in earlier ages (link
(https://news.unl.edu/sites/default/files/styles/large_aspect/public/tumblr_inline_o14xwq97fr1qhknuy_500.jpg?itok=Ng7EvmZN) ). She is a Native
American actress well known for her role as the main character in the film Pocahontas. In my opinion, her appearance is especially intriguing. I
believe June is a very interesting character that captures the beauty of what approaches me as mysterious. Actresses like Irene Bedard would be
excellent in portraying such a character. Additionally, I think Kalani Queypo would be a good actor for Lyman Lamartine (link (https://ia.media
imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk3NTI5OTc0MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMDQ0Mjk3NzE@._V1_SY1000_SX800_AL_.jpg) ). Looking at his exuberant facial
expression and acting skills, I believe he would be excellent in expressing the character. His facial features of Native American are also suitable for
the role. Throughout the novel, readers are able to see both the cheerful and devastated sides of Lyman. The transition takes place after Henry’s
death; the outgoing and enthusiastic Lyman Lamartine is gone after that.
One of the things I learned about myself as I read Love Medicine is how much I care for my family. Throughout the novel, the characters express
love towards their family members, but there were also various forms of conflicts. Whenever I read about characters like Howard Kashpaw suffering
from such troubles, I found myself genuinely worrying for them. It was like this quote from the novel: It surprised me, after all, how much I felt”
(Erdrich 292). I concluded that such notion comes from how much I love my own family; that I know what it feels like to be loved. It was a valuable
experience to read this novel.
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10:39am
Wow! What an amazing revelation. We have deepness that we sometimes don't even notice.
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3:09am
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10:40am
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